Re:Laura Bush Visits The Vatican From Current Events

[Robert Mazar]

Laura Bush had every right to visit the Vatican to meet Benedict XVI. Laura Bush is acting like her husband is by not having hatred toward any church that believes that Christ is God and who believes in the Holy Trinity. If anybody preaches against the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or Mainline Protestant Churches then they need to repent of all that hatred toward churches that believe that Christ is God and who believe in the Holy Trinity. I will admit that it was a little insane for Benedict XVI knowing that Laura Bush is a Methodist to have given Laura Bush a Rosary.

[Jim]

Again, she is entitled to be wrong. Bush also visited the anti-...er... i mean the popes funeral.

[Davo]

I think you were right first time Jim

[Jim]

[Robert Mazar]

Jim,

Who says that George W. and Laura Bush are wrong? Just because they do not have hatred in their hearts like you guys do for churches that believe that Christ is God and believe in the Holy Trinity? You guys need to repent of all that hatred that you guys have. My brother and everybody at the Non Denominational Church that my brother is a member of are better and truer Christians then any of you guys on this forum because they do not preach against any church that believes that Christ is God and believes in the Holy Trinity. It is ok to get Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and Mainline Protestants to receive Christ as their Savior but it is not ok to tell them that they have to leave the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church because church membership has no bearing on salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. The only thing that Christ will inquire of everybody when they pass away is did they receive Him as their Savior.

[Davo]

Robert

I have not seen any hatred on this board.

It is not hate to warn people of danger, and Robert you are in grave danger, It is not love to tell people lies. It is love to warn people of danger.

The old testament puts it like this: Tke note.

Quote:
Ezekiel 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.


And if that wasn't plain, God repeats the message.

Quote:
Ezeliel 33:1 ? Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman?s hand.


Your brother is also in great danger if he teaches what you say he does.

[Robert Mazar]

Davo,

How am I in grave danger? I do not tell lies. What lies am I supposedly telling? On discussion forums I inform other Catholics that in order to be saved and gain entrance into Heaven after passing away that they have to receive Christ as their Savior. The hatred that I am stating that you guys are engaging in is that you guys state that when a Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or a Mainline Protestant receives Christ as their Savior that they have to leave the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church as if there is something wrong with a Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or a Mainline Protestant who has received Christ as their Savior staying in the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church after receiving Christ as their Savior.

Even if someone who has received Christ as their Savior does not leave the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church they will still go to Heaven when they pass away because they had received Christ as their Savior, which is the only requirement for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven after passing away. Church membership, Baptism or the Sacraments have no bearing on salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven.

[jgb321]

With 3 American Presidents at JPII's funeral, kneeling down next to his corpse, the apostate one-world religion is well and truly under way!

[Davo]

You are in danger because you are associated with an idolatrous church, whic has for centuries pesecuted and killed the saints of God. She admists to persecutign, but says she persecutes heretic not saints. The only reason she does not do it now. is because she does not have the power. When she gets this power again


When one speaks of the atrocities of Rome, we are told that is all along time ago in the past. But is it? Has Rome changed? Consider the following.
In the 1500's, King Emanuel of Portugal issued an order to seize all Jewish children under fourteen years of age, to tear them from the arms and bosoms of their parents, and to disperse them through the kingdom, to be baptized and brought up as "Christians" (that is Catholics.).

In 1642 in Ireland after their parents were massacred, children of protestant parents were given to catholic families to be brought up as Romanists "To preserve Christian Civilization." (that is Catholic civilization.).

In 1665 amidst fearful massacres of the Waldensians, surviving children were put into monasteries and given to catholic families to be brought up as Romanists "To preserve Christian Civilization." (that is Catholic civilization.).

"This was all a long time ago," we are told. So let us jump nearly 300 years to 1941. This time it is in Hitler's puppet state of Croatia, ruled by Ante Pavolich and Archbishop Stepinac. Then the Orthodox Serbs were the victims. After terrible massacres, some so severe that the Nazi troops intervened to stop them, and enforced conversions to Catholicism, after their parents were killed, children were given to catholic families to be brought up as Romanists "To preserve Christian Civilization." (that is Catholic civilization.).

"But that was over 50 years ago." So let us come nearer to modern times. In Argentina under the Generals, many left wingers who became known as the "disappeared ones", were massacred and their children were given to catholic families to be brought up as Romanists "To preserve Christian Civilization." (that is Catholic civilization.). This reign of terror was brought to end by the Falklands war.

Has Rome changed?
I don't think so.

[Jim]

Anytime someones defense falls apart, they immediately start to attacking person and denominations because they know they cannot stand against the scripture that has been given. They will typically start accusing "hate" and "unloving attitude".

I have seen this oh so often, and as there are just not a whole lot of people who unanimously agree on doctrine, there sure are a bunch who will end up standing on this one point against truth.

Quote:How am I in grave danger?

Ok, here is your answer:

You unequivocally assert, and reiterate many times what you(and your brother) "believe":

Quote:My brother is a better and truer Christian then any of you guys on this forum because he recognizes that the Catholic Church is a True Christian Church because the Catholic Church believes that Christ is God and in the Holy Trinity. My brother is also a better and truer Christian then any of you guys on this forum because he does not preach hatred toward any church that believes that Christ is God and in the Holy Trinity

Lets' see what the bible says about "belief":

Quote:James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

so I say again to you in response to your actions as versus your belief:

Quote:2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4:4
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Jim