What is worship?

[Davo]

What is worship?

Our church has in the past held a stall at the Fresher’s fair at the local university.

The most asked question is “What is the worship like?” By that I assume they mean “What is the singing like?”

I have just been reading about the early English Baptist who were exiled to Holland. One wrote home to describe their worship. The services started at 8.00 am. A scripture was read, and explained, and two or three Brethren then expounded the scripture, for up to an hour each, finishing at about 12.00 or 1.00. There was no singing and no translations of scripture were allowed, those reading read from Hebrew and Greek, translating as they went.

So:

What is worship?

[Jerry80871852]

Davo Wrote:What is worship?

Our church has in the past held a stall at the Fresher’s fair at the local university.

The most asked question is “What is the worship like?” By that I assume they mean “What is the singing like?”

I have just been reading about the early English Baptist who were exiled to Holland. One wrote home to describe their worship. The services started at 8.00 am. A scripture was read, and explained, and two or three Brethren then expounded the scripture, for up to an hour each, finishing at about 12.00 or 1.00. There was no singing and no translations of scripture were allowed, those reading read from Hebrew and Greek, translating as they went.

So:

What is worship?

My Sunday sermon is entitled, 'Worshiping Jesus Is Our Goal.'

Is worshiping not, trusting, praying, giving thanks, singing praises, and learning about the Father and our Savior? Of course for it to be accepted we must do so in spirit and truth, if we don't, them its unaccepted.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

Sad to say, there be many who feel they can worship any way they please and it will be accepted. Sad to say there be many who worship, but its not accepted by God nor our Savior.

And of course we are not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together to worship.

[George]

Brother David that is a good topic. Unfortunately the answer is not that good. Things have changed so much in the churches and there has been so much apostasy people no longer know what worship is. Normally there is a rock and roll band with a singer or two (sometimes even a small choir) and that is called the "Worship Team.' Silly me I always thought the Worship Team was the congregation. Shows you how much I know!

Here is what is said in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary:

4. Chiefly and eminently, the act of paying divine honors to the Supreme Being; or the reverence and homage paid to him in religious exercises, consisting in adoration, confession, prayer, thanksgiving and the like.

My word, it does not say anything about rock and roll bands, men with long hair, women with clothes that just do not cover enough and things of that nature being called a "Worship Team." Interesting, don't you think?

In Christ,
George

[Bro Nobody]

Biblical Worship-Washing Jesus feet with our tears of gratitude, obedience and service.

Modern Worship- Making the god of "I" feel good with a sensual song...

[George]

Quote:Modern Worship- Making the god of "I" feel good with a sensual song...

Might I add while under the influence of alcohol. In my days as a Director in Reformers Unanimous I had occasion to have two students who were guitar players in the "praise bands" at their churches. Each time I talked to either of them they were most definitely drunk. To carry it one step farther the profanity that came out of their mouths really shocked me.

Unfortunately such is the state of things in today's churches and the type of "worship" they indulge in. There are so, so m any people who have been deceived into believing they are going to heaven when they die because they are Christians. There are a whole lot of them that are going to be totally surprised at where they end up. In all fairness there are some fundamental Baptists out there who may be surprised at where they end up too!

As I write this I think of the non-denominational churches or the confused churches as I call them. We have one here in town that gets hundreds of people in on Sunday morning. The word from the pulpit is that thee is this belief and there is that belief and there is the other belief and the people are not told which one is the correct belief. The result is that there are hundreds of confused people sitting in that Church on Sunday morning that may not even know what salvation is much less understand whether they are saved or not.

That church and others like it remind me of the Church of the Laodiceans.

Quote:(Rev 3:14) And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

(Rev 3:15) I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

(Rev 3:16) So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

They are neither hot nor cold but confused. According to what I read here Jesus would rather that they were part of the cold group which I believe was a portent of the churches with the rock and roll bands and preachers in jeans and sandals and such as that.

When we pray we need to not only pray for the lost but also for those who attend and believe in the things they are taught in such churches. My word the things that are accepted as worship these days are downright disgusting to me.

In Christ,
George

[Davo]

I wrote that to show the difference between the early dissenters type of service abd the modern worship. I can remember one young man refering to the singing as "The worship bit."

[Jerry80871852]

George Wrote:

Quote:Modern Worship- Making the god of "I" feel good with a sensual song...

Might I add while under the influence of alcohol. In my days as a Director in Reformers Unanimous I had occasion to have two students who were guitar players in the "praise bands" at their churches. Each time I talked to either of them they were most definitely drunk. To carry it one step farther the profanity that came out of their mouths really shocked me.

Unfortunately such is the state of things in today's churches and the type of "worship" they indulge in. There are so, so m any people who have been deceived into believing they are going to heaven when they die because they are Christians. There are a whole lot of them that are going to be totally surprised at where they end up. In all fairness there are some fundamental Baptists out there who may be surprised at where they end up too!

As I write this I think of the non-denominational churches or the confused churches as I call them. We have one here in town that gets hundreds of people in on Sunday morning. The word from the pulpit is that thee is this belief and there is that belief and there is the other belief and the people are not told which one is the correct belief. The result is that there are hundreds of confused people sitting in that Church on Sunday morning that may not even know what salvation is much less understand whether they are saved or not.

That church and others like it remind me of the Church of the Laodiceans.

Quote:(Rev 3:14) And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

(Rev 3:15) I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

(Rev 3:16) So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

They are neither hot nor cold but confused. According to what I read here Jesus would rather that they were part of the cold group which I believe was a portent of the churches with the rock and roll bands and preachers in jeans and sandals and such as that.

When we pray we need to not only pray for the lost but also for those who attend and believe in the things they are taught in such churches. My word the things that are accepted as worship these days are downright disgusting to me.

In Christ,
George

Yes, many in that day will be surprised. One problem is many of the pastors know not the Bible, so that cannot teach, preach, the truth. In many of those churches if they did, they would be sent flying out the door.

And that's true too, those musician you speak of, they are in rebellion against both God and society, trying to find a place to fit in, the thing is they are not quite fitting in, for they refuse to completely surrender to Jesus.

A man I've know forever. He always loved music. When younger I firmly believe he thought playing the guitar, writing songs, singing, would take him far in life. But it didn't.

I'm 63, he is a year or 2 younger than I. A couple of years back he joined a church to be part of a band, this band was in need of another member for one had quit. This band goes around playing Christians music where ever anyone will invite them, they are not picky, any church that invites them, no matter what they teach, they will play and sing for them, and from what I hear they're careful to make sure they do not offend anyone. You know, in a church that teaches your saved by works they will not say one is saved by grace thru faith. But them the Baptist Church the majority of them use to attend tried their best not to offend anyone.

I fear if it was not for the band, he would have nothing to do with this church. Hope I'm wrong.

I've got to say one more thing, I spoke of this in my morning message, to many churches have turned into entertainment centers, they have programs, skits, singing, speakers, in place of preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

After we had left our church, I feel this was during the time of this Baptist Churches preaching service, all the young people, many adults, were outside, looking at horses, cows, pigs, and other animals, not in church hearing the Gospel of Jesus proclaimed. Probably if they only proclaimed the Gospel during this time, few of them would have been present.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

I suppose preaching of the Gospel is foolish to them.

Yes, we have many professing Christians that feel if a church was doing what it should be doing, that would be foolish. This bunch will fall for anything.

They really have no idea what worshiping the Father and the Son pertains to.

[LiteSong]

I fault those that have fallen into the "Rick Warren" style of (so called) worship....as he has stated his desire is to "build churches for those who don't like church" and thus the the focus of Godly worship has been lost! Lev.20:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God; and also..I Peter 1:15 &16, But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy