Greek new testament

[milly16]

Hey,
I am trying to find out how many times 'AGON' is used in the greek new testment, and how it is translated. Please help!!!

[George]

milly16 Wrote:Hey,
I am trying to find out how many times 'AGON' is used in the greek new testment, and how it is translated. Please help!!!

Sister Milly, I have been researching and I do not find that word in the Bible. The closest I can find to it is "agone." It occurs only once and that is in 1 Samuel 30:13. "because three days agone I fell sick"

That word is translated as "today." In the verse shown above it literally means three days ago today I fell sick.

In Christ,
George

[milly16]

George Wrote:

milly16 Wrote:Hey,
I am trying to find out how many times 'AGON' is used in the greek new testment, and how it is translated. Please help!!!

Sister Milly, I have been researching and I do not find that word in the Bible. The closest I can find to it is "agone." It occurs only once and that is in 1 Samuel 30:13. "because three days agone I fell sick"

That word is translated as "today." In the verse shown above it literally means three days ago today I fell sick.

In Christ,




Are you sure it is not anywhere in the GREEK New Testament. They said it is translated to conflict, or other synomyns
George

[George]

Well, I looked in Strong's under the Greek New Testament and I also checked with Young's Analytical Concordance. I have a set of Wuest's Word Studies in the Greek New Testament. Perhaps there is something on it in there. I shall look when I have a little time.

IN Christ,
George

[Mongol Servant]

Bro George,
She may mean ANON - Matthew 13:20 & Mark 1:30.

[milly16]

George Wrote:Well, I looked in Strong's under the Greek New Testament and I also checked with Young's Analytical Concordance. I have a set of Wuest's Word Studies in the Greek New Testament. Perhaps there is something on it in there. I shall look when I have a little time.

IN Christ,
George

I got this workbook in class that askeed me to list how many times it is mentioned in the Greek New Testament, and then it wanted me to list how it was translated into the KJV Bible.I just dont know why they would say it was listed somwhere around 19 times in the greek new testament, but its not there. This assignment is complicated, it has gotten me on the internet more than I have ever been.

[George]

Okay sister, using the translation of the word as conflict I was able to determine that the Greek word agon appears in the King James Bible only twice. It is found in Phil. 1:30 and Col. 2:1.

Unless they are using some off-the-wall "version" of the Bible they are waaayyy off.

I was able to cross reference it using the Young's Analytical Concordance.

In Christ,
George

[milly16]

George Wrote:Okay sister, using the translation of the word as conflict I was able to determine that the Greek word agon appears in the King James Bible only twice. It is found in Phil. 1:30 and Col. 2:1.

Unless they are using some off-the-wall "version" of the Bible they are waaayyy off.

I was able to cross reference it using the Young's Analytical Concordance.

In Christ,
George

They are KJV, other wise I wouldnt be using it. But thanks for the help anyways.

[Bro Nobody]

Phil 1:30
col 2:1
1 thes 2:2
1 Tim 6:12
2 Tim 4:7
Heb 12:1
There might be more in different forms than you listed. plural ect Strongs word 73

Yes you are correct it means conflict or anxiety like conflicted in our heart, also race/competition.

It is also the name used in old greek myths but this has no Bible foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agon
Another source
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/.../agon.html

Careful with online stuff though, I used quickverse to locat 6 uses

[Mongol Servant]

The Greek New Testament is a misnomer, in the first place - James Strong was on the NASV committee and had a strong hatred for the KJB. ANY definitions he uses in his concordance has been tainted by the likes of Thayer (a Unitarian, that did not believe in the diety of Christ), Westcott & Hort, and the likes thereof. The Koine Greek language died out over 800 years ago - any definitions used today are CLASSICAL Greek - it's impossible to properly define a Koine Greek word with a classical Greek dictionary. I believe The Lord had a purpose in doing that.

Another former member of this forum, indicated that he was taught in Bible college, that his professors would go to Greek literature (from the early church age) and use their definition to pinpoint the correct meaning of words in the "Greek New Testament"! Using secular literature to define the word of God - what a travesty!

I would recommend that everyone here get a copy of Sis Riplinger's latest book, entitled "Hazardous Materials". It details much of the satanic attempt to focus people on the "original manuscripts" instead of the scripture of truth - the KJB. Satan has not stopped attacking the word of God, only changed his tactics - "Yea, hath God said?"

You put 5 Greek "scholars" in a room and you'll get 7 different opinions!!!

[George]

Quote:I would recommend that everyone here get a copy of Sis Riplinger's latest book, entitled "Hazardous Materials".

Brother James, this is one in which we disagree. In my Bible it still says:

(1Ti 2:12) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. (emphasis mine)

As such I will not read any of her material. I know she is much ballyhooed among fundamentalists but for me personally she has nothing to say that I am interested in. In my Bible it also says:

(Tit 2:3) The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; (Tit 2:4) That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, (Emphasis again mine)

She has no business even attempting to put out information that is designed to teach men about things concerning the Lord and the Bible. That is my two cents worth. You must understand that I am a fundamentalist which means that I take the Bible literally and I believe and do the best I can to practice what it says in all my affairs.

In Christ,
George

[Jerry80871852]

George Wrote:

Quote:I would recommend that everyone here get a copy of Sis Riplinger's latest book, entitled "Hazardous Materials".

Brother James, this is one in which we disagree. In my Bible it still says:

(1Ti 2:12) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. (emphasis mine)

As such I will not read any of her material. I know she is much ballyhooed among fundamentalists but for me personally she has nothing to say that I am interested in. In my Bible it also says:

(Tit 2:3) The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; (Tit 2:4) That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, (Emphasis again mine)

She has no business even attempting to put out information that is designed to teach men about things concerning the Lord and the Bible. That is my two cents worth. You must understand that I am a fundamentalist which means that I take the Bible literally and I believe and do the best I can to practice what it says in all my affairs.

In Christ,
George

Isn't that the truth brother. Many of our modern day teaches speak of staying in the truth, but they set back and let women teach and even preach and praise it, instead of obeying the Bible.

A Baptist Association I grew up in are just starting to put women in leadership roles. One is in charge of their paper they put out 2 times a months, since she took over instead of putting a sermon from one of the pastors in it as has been done for more than 50 years she places and article written by a woman.

Women are just itching to be in the leadership role in our churches and telling them men what or what not to do. They have just about conquered all leadership rolls outside of churches and place men under them. Even in many homes, the woman is the dictator of while mousy men do nothing but say "Yes ma'am," or "No ma'am."

I've took some heat in refusing to buy books, commentaries written by women, respect the rights of women in leadership roles, but I expect that, for I know there be many who disagree with God's way who are blinded by old Satan while trying to help him out as much as they can.

[Mongol Servant]

Bro George,

I understand your view and respect it. However, this is one place that, I think, we can agree to disagree.

I learned many years ago, not to "throw out the baby with the bath water", or as Bro Jim has indicated on earlier posts, "eat the meat and throw out the bones."

For many years now, the devil has begun to focus Christians on the faults of others, instead of the material being given. We all have faults and areas of our life that are a problem, but with The Lord's help, they can become a blessing, instead of a burden - if we allow Him to fix them.

I've watched "good, sound, Christian leaders" hammer people such as Bro Hyles, Bro Rice, Bro Roloff, Bro Ruckman, Sis Schlafly, Sis Riplinger, and a multitude of others, for numerous "faults" or areas in their life that they didn't agree with. That's their prerogative. On the other hand, I believe The Lord provides us with tools to use in serving Him, and combating the devil.

Until just recently, I wasn't aware of many of the tricks and con-games being used by these Bible college professors in denigrating and marginalizing the word of God - lexicons, concordances, dictionaries, et al. That book, Hazardous Materials, lays it out in very clear, plain language (where an old, country-boy, like me) that can be used in understanding the latest avenue of attack by the "Yea, hath God said" society. I'll use it.

[Jerry80871852]

Yes He does, but we have to be very careful in what tools we use. We are not to use a tool where someone usurps authority not given to them. Women teaching men.

2Ti 3:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

And yes, some out there are nice enough to warn others of false teachers. Sorry, but Mrs. Riplinger is one of them, plus she is a lair.

Gail Riplinger's Lies to Dr. and Mrs. D.A. Waite