Can someone please explain to me why the KJV is superior to modern versions?

[FundamentalistBaptistLady]

Hi everyone. Can someone please explain to me in layman's terms why the KJV is superior to modern Bible versions? Thanks!

[George]

Sister Holly if you poke around on the forums some you will find an excellent thread on the King James Bible. One simple explanation about the difference lies in the NIV which is probably the most popular of the modern perversions of the Bible. The NIV contains over 65,000 fewer words than does the King James Bible. (By the way, the king James Bible is not a "version, it is the only true Word of God. I have an antique Bible collection. The older Bibles printed prior to the advent of the first "version' do not contain the word "version" in the title.)

Each of the modern perversions of the Bible change words at least. Changing of words often affects the meaning of the verses. The New King James version, which a lot of people use because they say it is true to the King James Bible changes words subtly which really destroy the true meaning of the verses. It is an abomination as with the rest of the "versions."

Most of the modern perversions are based on the translation of Westcott and Hort. If you do a little research on them you will find out how terrible they really are. One of the two of them, forgive me because I don't recall which, was actually a believer in the occult. The translation committee of the NIV actually had a homosexual on it. That is why the NIV goes so lightly on homosexuals. Most of the modern "versions" are based on three texts. They use the Codex Sinaticus, the Codex Vaticanus and the Alexandrian Codex. As example, the Codex Vaticanus is so bad it was actually found in a trash can. It is so secret it was locked up in a vault in the Vatican and no one has been allowed to check it for accuracy. If you look at the Bible you will see that it says that no good thing ever came out of Egypt (Alexandrian Codex.) God also said not to look for him in the desert because He is not there (Sinaticus.) The other is a Roman Catholic manuscript that is not worth reading.

Contrary to popular belief the King James Bible is actually easier to read than are the modern perversions. I posted somewhere here statistics on the readability of the King James Bible. upon testing it was discovered it can be read by anyone with about a 6th grade reading level.

That is basically the difference although there is on major statement in the Bible itself that tells us it is the true Bible.

(Psa 12:6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (Psa 12:7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The King James Bible is the seventh major translation of God's holy Word in the English language (purified seven times.) We believe the King James Bible to be the true Word of God, inerrant and preserved as such for the believer (thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.) We have the promise of God that the King James Bible is the only Bible and it is preserved to us for all eternity.

I pray this helps you somewhat. There are many more reasons. Perhaps some of the others here on the boards can supply things I have not.

In Christ,
George

[FundamentalistBaptistLady]

George Wrote:Sister Holly if you poke around on the forums some you will find an excellent thread on the King James Bible. One simple explanation about the difference lies in the NIV which is probably the most popular of the modern perversions of the Bible. The NIV contains over 65,000 fewer words than does the King James Bible. (By the way, the king James Bible is not a "version, it is the only true Word of God. I have an antique Bible collection. The older Bibles printed prior to the advent of the first "version' do not contain the word "version" in the title.)

Each of the modern perversions of the Bible change words at least. Changing of words often affects the meaning of the verses. The New King James version, which a lot of people use because they say it is true to the King James Bible changes words subtly which really destroy the true meaning of the verses. It is an abomination as with the rest of the "versions."

Most of the modern perversions are based on the translation of Westcott and Hort. If you do a little research on them you will find out how terrible they really are. One of the two of them, forgive me because I don't recall which, was actually a believer in the occult. The translation committee of the NIV actually had a homosexual on it. That is why the NIV goes so lightly on homosexuals. Most of the modern "versions" are based on three texts. They use the Codex Sinaticus, the Codex Vaticanus and the Alexandrian Codex. As example, the Codex Vaticanus is so bad it was actually found in a trash can. It is so secret it was locked up in a vault in the Vatican and no one has been allowed to check it for accuracy. If you look at the Bible you will see that it says that no good thing ever came out of Egypt (Alexandrian Codex.) God also said not to look for him in the desert because He is not there (Sinaticus.) The other is a Roman Catholic manuscript that is not worth reading.

Contrary to popular belief the King James Bible is actually easier to read than are the modern perversions. I posted somewhere here statistics on the readability of the King James Bible. upon testing it was discovered it can be read by anyone with about a 6th grade reading level.

That is basically the difference although there is on major statement in the Bible itself that tells us it is the true Bible.

(Psa 12:6) The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (Psa 12:7) Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The King James Bible is the seventh major translation of God's holy Word in the English language (purified seven times.) We believe the King James Bible to be the true Word of God, inerrant and preserved as such for the believer (thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.) We have the promise of God that the King James Bible is the only Bible and it is preserved to us for all eternity.

I pray this helps you somewhat. There are many more reasons. Perhaps some of the others here on the boards can supply things I have not.

In Christ,
George

Thank you George. If anyone could provide me some more reasons why the King James Bible is superior, I'd appreciate it. That said, I do believe that the King James Bible is superior. My church teaches that it is the only inerrant Bible in English and I believe that wholeheartedly.

[deputydog530]

I compare the NIV and KJV regarding Isaiah 14:12. The NIV removes lucifers name and calls him son of the morning, which is who Christ is refered to, hence the NIV calls Christ the devil.

When I bring that one up I usually wont get a reply.

[Upholder]

Some more thoughts on this subject:

"God is not the author of confusion..." (1 Cor 14:33a)

Today, there are hundreds of "Bible versions" jostling for position on bookseller's shelves, and they all claim to be God's Word. But how can this be? How can two or more books equally claim to be God's Word and yet have renderings of verses that sometimes differ substantially?

Here's an example of this. Compare this excerpt from Matt. 5:22; firstly as it is in the KJV and then as it is rendered in the NIV:

"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment..." (KJV)

"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment..." (NIV)

Notice the difference. By omitting the words "without a cause", the NIV makes it a sin to be angry.

And that would make the sinless Lord Jesus Christ a sinner, because in Mark 3:5 Jesus looked on the Pharisees "with anger"! Jesus was not angry with the Pharisees without a cause, because the Pharisees were hard-hearted men who cared nothing for Jesus' kindness to the man with the withered hand. But the NIV would make Jesus a sinner, because the NIV makes it a sin to be angry, with or without a cause.

So, it is easy to see how much difference is made by the omission of a few words.

In fairness to the NIV, it does include a footnote to Matt 5:22 to say that some manuscripts have "without cause" in the verse. But then the question begs to be asked: why did the translators of the NIV choose to use the manuscripts that omit these vital words? Why did they choose the manuscripts that make the Lord Jesus appear to be a sinner?

God isn't the author of a book of confusion like the NIV, a book that in one place has Jesus being angry, and in another place has Jesus pronouncing judgment against anger!

The KJV contains none of this confusion. It has stood the test of time, and it has blessed multitudes of Christians for nearly four centuries. The plethora of modern "Bibles" that exist today are a sad symptom of the age in which we live. People want a "Bible" that is altered, weakened, and watered down to suit their feelings and accomodate their lifestyles, and the publishers are happy to oblige.

God's Word is no ordinary book. If it were like any other book, it would not have survived in its entirety to this present day. But God has promised to preserve his Word for ever (Psalm 12:7), and we can be certain that it is here with us today. Like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, we can search the Scriptures. The Bereans would not have had the original manuscripts of the Old Testament, but the scriptures to which they had access were undoubtedly God's Word. In like manner, we may not have access to the original manuscripts of the OT and NT, but we have access to God's Word preserved to this day in our English language.
And I believe that all the evidence points to the KJV as the Bible for English-speaking people.

[Bro Nobody]

If you look at the history, timing of translation in the development of the English language, the fruit from it, the fruit from the readers of it, the testimony of the translators, the veracity of it, the enduring of it in persecution, It has and will always have attackers but each and every one perishes unfulfilled in his attempt to extinguish or burn its pages from future generations, each page filled with the words of life and testimony of our redeemer, every facet about it shows the hand of God at work. The hight of its superiority can be measured by the depth of the blood of the martyers that gave it to us. That is why it is superior to modern neutered versions of Gods word. All this testimony of God’s providence even before you even open the pages comparing it.

[Upholder]

Bro Nobody Wrote:If you look at the history, timing of translation in the development of the English language, the fruit from it, the fruit from the readers of it, the testimony of the translators, the veracity of it, the enduring of it in persecution, It has and will always have attackers but each and every one perishes unfulfilled in his attempt to extinguish or burn its pages from future generations, each page filled with the words of life and testimony of our redeemer, every facet about it shows the hand of God at work. The hight of its superiority can be measured by the depth of the blood of the martyers that gave it to us. That is why it is superior to modern neutered versions of Gods word. All this testimony of God’s providence even before you even open the pages comparing it.

Amen to that.

[Mongol Servant]

Amen! Bro Sam Gipp has an excellent new book out entitled, "Is Our English Bible Inspired?", that has some great material on the Bible, how it came about, translation emphasis, etc. It is only 73 pages, but packed with good material. Get a copy!

[George]

Mongol Servant Wrote:Amen! Bro Sam Gipp has an excellent new book out entitled, "Is Our English Bible Inspired?", that has some great material on the Bible, how it came about, translation emphasis, etc. It is only 73 pages, but packed with good material. Get a copy!

There is another excellent book on the subject titled: "King James, His Bible and Its Translators" written by Lawrence M Vance. The only difficulty I have with it its the wording of the title. It is not King James' Bible, it is God's Holy Bible. However I understand the reason for the wording of the title and there is no difficulty with the content of the book.

In Christ,
George

[Jim]

I know I am very late in coming to this, but in a nutshell, the KJV was translated word-for-word (formal equivalency) from the best manuscripts. The modern versions are a paraphrase (dynamic equivalency, meaning that the person doing the translating feels he can tell you what the words are trying to tell you, thereby taking the place of the Holy Spirit), from all the best manuscripts AND including questionable manuscripts.

Hope that helps.

[Mongol Servant]

Amen, Bro Jim! That's as concise as it gets!