Repenting of sin is a false doctrine

[Nelsen]

Repenting of sin is a works salvation.
This false doctrine is nothing new it's been around for a long time but has now crept into the I.F.B.C.'s
No where in the Bible does it say "repent of sin" to be saved.
Repent of unbelief,repent of false gods,and of dead works which is the works of the law and the repentance of sin.!
In context of scripture these kinds of people are the only ones told to repent in order to be saved. But the formula is still "believe"!
For example: turn from your unbelief and believe, turn from believing in false gods and believe in the one true God, turn from trusting in dead works and believe in the finished work of the Cross.

Most Christians will tell new believers to read the book of John and would agree that this book has the most information on how to be saved.
90 times the word believe is mentioned! How many times is the word repent mentioned?
If the book of John has the most verses on how to be saved and repenting of sin is a condition to salvation then why didn't the Holy Spirit make even one mention of the word repent in this book?!
The Holy Spirit answers clearly this question in the book of Acts 16
" Sirs,what must I do to be saved?......Believe and thou shalt be saved!"

I have had made this truth known among many soo called I.F.B. circles but so far all have rejected the clear teachings of God's Word and thus marking themselves as false teachers.

He who hath an ear let him hear!

Make no mistake,I am not claiming the repentance of sin is not taught in the Bible but rather it is not a condition of salvation.

[ChuckieTrout]

Welcome on board 'Nelson'
I'm not sure how familiar you are with this forums structure, it took me quite a while to figure out all its potential. There is plenty of good reading on this subject by some strong Bible students, teachers, preachers etc. etc.
May I suggest the thread on the "General Discussions" page "Doctrinal Topics" ( Biblical Repentance -- What is IT?? (Pages: 1 2 )

Then we'll tee it up for a round or two.

PS; also if you don't mind, a little info on your 'BIO' would be nice (User CP ) so we can share ourselves with each other (diverse yet with one mind) as you will find out from other threads!!

[George]

Amen to what Brother CT has said. Go in and read the thread he referred to in his response. What you have stated is true in that there is no other requirement for salvation other than belief however there are two different types of repentence involved here. One must repent (have a change of mind) prior to being saved but that is all mentioned in the thread referenced.

In Christ,
George

[Nelsen]

There is no need to read any other thread on this topic.
The Bible makes clear this issue on salvation and the false teaching of repenting from sin or sins to be saved.

[ChuckieTrout]

Nelsen Wrote:There is no need to read any other thread on this topic.
The Bible makes clear this issue on salvation and the false teaching of repenting from sin or sins to be saved.

No need to read the thread.........me thinks I smell a rat....so to speak (I am not calling you a rat I just get suspicious of where your coming from now). I've spent to much time on the streets fighting the evils of this world (see my salutation or BIO) interviewing, interrogating, and listening to people from every walk of life!. I've detected this much that your 1st post was not a testimonial, not salutatory to the brethren, but started right off looking for a squabble. Perhaps you are someone thats has parted ways with 'Fund.Preaching.com", been banned, and re-upped a new identity here, etc. etc. You see someone that doesn't need to read what is here in earlier threads either already knows what is there or has an axe to grind with some one here. If that be the case I'm sure we will here from others soon. Sometimes we need to clear the air and start again which I will gladly do!!!


ps; If I am all wet Nelson I will apologize and reiterate "welcome to the forum"

[George]

Nelsen Wrote:There is no need to read any other thread on this topic.
The Bible makes clear this issue on salvation and the false teaching of repenting from sin or sins to be saved.

The second statement is true Brother. The point is that if you will take the time to read the previous thread you will find this subject has been discussed and discussed and discussed. I really don't see the need to revivie it.

In Christ,
George

[Jim]

Hmmm.....I guess I'm just not a nice guy.

To claim that repentance is not a requirement of salvation is apostasy...period.

Love in Christ,

Jim

[Mongol Servant]

AND AMEN! "Apostasy" with a capital "A". As CT stated, I think I smell a "rat" - glad he's down the road, toad! He's evidence of this John MacArthur "Lordship Salvation" garbage, that is permeating our ranks. Good riddance!

[George]

Mongol Servant Wrote:AND AMEN! "Apostasy" with a capital "A". As CT stated, I think I smell a "rat" - glad he's down the road, toad! He's evidence of this John MacArthur "Lordship Salvation" garbage, that is permeating our ranks. Good riddance!

AMEN!!!

[NCUNIT33]

What does the Bible say about this subject?
Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Jesus
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Jesus
Luke 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
Jesus
other passages.
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

II Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

I believe it is a requirement, without a changed mind no man could accepted Christ by faith.

Jim Norman
Northside Baptist Church

[ChuckieTrout]

Thanks 'NCUNIT33', right on the mark!!
I put my shortend testimony in an another thread-post but it fits nicely here;;
"Nelsen Wrote:
Let me offer another-Jesus said,"My sheep hear my voice"
Those who preach another gospel and refuse to hear Gods word are to be marked as unbelievers and false teachers.
Anyone who believes this false gospel of repenting of sins ( dead works-the works of the law ) REPENT!!!!!!!!!! "
My responce...
I think Nelson ole' buddy I'll leave you this testimonial:
In hearing Gods call to come forward for salvation (Sunday eve. Feb.11th 1973) came as the terrible guilt of the sinful condition, pitiful specimen I was, over came me. Without that repentant heart for what I had done, I would have no need (guilt would be absent) to accept the price for what God did for me through GRACE!!!!! Probably the same for most here as I pray was for you."
Thank you Lord Jesus; Amen

[George]

I still believe there is a problem with semantics concerning this word "repent." There is most definitely a Biblical requirement of repentance prior to salvation if you look at the word and its meaning. In the verses quoted by NCUNIT the word styled "repent" or "repented" or "repentance" in the New Testament is assigned the Strong's number 3340 and occurs in one of its three forms 34 times in the New Testament. (Oh, I should put in a qualification: it occurs 34 times in the New Testament if you have a King James Bible. If you don't it might not be in there.)

G3340
?????????
metanoeo?
Total KJV Occurrences: 34
repent, 21
Mat_3:2 (2), Mat_4:17, Mar_1:15, Mar_6:12, Luk_13:3, Luk_13:5, Luk_16:30, Luk_17:3-4 (2), Act_2:38, Act_3:19, Act_8:22, Act_17:30, Act_26:20, Rev_2:5 (2), Rev_2:16, Rev_2:21-22 (2), Rev_3:3, Rev_3:19
repented, 11
Mat_11:19-21 (3), Mat_12:41, Luk_10:13, Luk_11:32, 2Co_12:21, Rev_2:21, Rev_9:20-21 (2), Rev_16:9, Rev_16:11
repenteth, 2
Luk_15:7, Luk_15:10

Here is the definition of the word:

G3340
?????????
metanoeo?
met-an-o-eh'-o
From G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.

Now my goodness, can anyone here really tell me they believe that repentance is not a requirement for salvation based on those two entries? A person MUST have a reconsideration and think differently before they accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour. One cannot ask Christ to forgive them and save their eternal life until they start thinking differently in that we must go from unbelief to belief. The Bible says believe and ye shall be saved. That right there is an indication the person being addressed did not believe and must start thinking differently and reconsider their position in order to be saved.

Now if one takes the meaning of repentance to be that we ask forgiveness for our sins that is not only not required prior to salvation because we cannot ask Someone we don't believe in for forgiveness, but it is an incorrect use of the word repent. Repent and confess do not mean the same thing.

In Christ,
George

[Bro Nobody]

Yes repentance is a "works" Salvation. It is a work of the Holy Spirit by the Power of Gods word. It is the making of a rebellious heart soft that they might be found pleasing in God's site by faith and truth. It is from a repentant heart a prayer is prayed and manifest in faith. It is only then by will and pleasure of God the Father the Blood of the Lamb Jesus is applied and he saves that which was lost....Repentance is part of Salvation but unlike Salvation is an ongoing affair, not just one instant act. Once we are filled by the Holy Spirit at salvation, the spirit continues to work and purify our walk on this earth until the day we are changed from corruptible to incorruptible. Repentance purges by the Word, those things keeping us from a full living relationship with Our Saviour and LORD.

[ChuckieTrout]

Amen & Amen

[candlelight]

I almost didn't open this thread. lol...I thought it was a test or a bad joke, at best.

Amen! In order for a person to be saved, he/she must repent of sin. This is ever so critical for the salvation of a lost sinner's soul. By faith...with a repentant heart, trust the blood of Jesus Christ to save your ungodly soul. We need to understand that we are a sinner, first, and on our way to a fiery Hell. Repenting of sin (and meaning it with all of one's heart) is essential before faith in Jesus Christ can occur in a person's life. The Bible specifically says that all men/women are sinners. Our sins have separated us from a Holy and righteous God. Since God made man in His own image and likeness... He also gave man the ability to chose right from wrong. We chose to sin as human beings, and our sin separates us from God.

God loves us! John 3:16...For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

All men/women are sinners! Romans 3:23...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

That sin must be paid for! Romans 6:23...For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Christ paid for our sins on the cross of Calvary! Romans 5:8...But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

By faith (personally pray) receive Jesus Christ as Savior! Romans 10:13...For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I love this poem on CHOICES---Author Unknown

You can choose your choices,
but you cannot choose
the consequences of your choices.

The thing about our choices is:
After we have made them,
They turn around and make us.