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Davo · Sun Dec 14, 2008 , 10:00 PM

Lu 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Is that not repenting of sins?

And Zacheaus?

**George** · Sun Dec 14, 2008 , 10:04 PM

Davo Wrote:Lu 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

Is that not repenting of sins?

And Zacheaus?

Amen to that Brother Davo! There sure have been a number of times in my life that I have been reduced to abject tears and could no more than voice the words of that publican.

In Christ,
George

ChuckieTrout · Mon Dec 15, 2008 , 09:39 AM

Mongol Servant Wrote:Very good, Bro Jim! I heard Jack Hudson say once, "God will not change your heart, until you change your mind about sin!"

Mongol please tell me how you know Jack Hudson (was my & my family's preacher in Charlotte,NC from '77 till he passed on in the 80's)!! a PM or Email will be fine...'GT' convicted under his ministry (as his brother led him to Lord) also. Razz

He was a special Preacher, who can still be heard on 'BBN' broadcast on "Conference Pulpit" occasionally.

Mongol Servant · Mon Dec 15, 2008 , 09:25 PM

CT - sent ya the PM.

Sounds like "Nelsen" cut Romans 2:4 outta his Bible, doesn't it?

**George** · Mon Dec 15, 2008 , 11:50 PM

Mongol Servant Wrote:CT - sent ya the PM.

Sounds like "Nelsen" cut Romans 2:4 outta his Bible, doesn't it?

Alas poor Nelson, I knew him well.

In Christ,
George

***Jim*** · Thu Dec 18, 2008 , 12:47 AM

Quote:Alas poor Nelson, I knew him well.

LOL

Sean · (This post was last modified: Mon Apr 20, 2009 08:01 AM by Sean.)

sorry Jim it seems to me that you think that the work is mostly on your own part it isnt it is God who calls and Jesus who justifies and the Holy Spirit which regenerates!! Until a man is born again he cannot be convicted of sin because the Holy Spirit is the one who does it! If you know what it is to be born again then you remember your old nature also! in your old nature did you really care about someone telling you that you were a vile creature in need of repentance? how would you have responded to them? its a different story to believe in Jesus and that he died for your sins. who God raised from the dead thats all thats needed besides faith!! (thy faith hath made thee whole)

Jim Wrote:You asked:

Quote:Is the preaching of repentance, adding works to salvation?

Luke 13:5
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

The preaching of repentance is almost gone anymore, because of the takeover of humanism in the church today.

Salvation has become a meaningless word in most churches today. It is a word used to describe how someone "feels".

Salvation comes to a man that does the following:

1) Confess and believe in Jesus Christ
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

2) Repent
Acts :19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

People are worshipping themselves now and just believe that they can utter the words "Jesus Christ", and believe He existed and they believe they are saved.

Repentance is critical. If a man does not put off the old man, (Ephesians 4:22 - That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.) then he is not saved. That means that he is still a slave to sin, which the blood of Christ releases us from. If we are not released from the bondage of sin, then where is the salvation? It did not occur, because the heart was wicked.

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

If there is not a repentance of the heart, then how can a deceitful, wicked heart worship God? It cannot.

The answer to your question is that: repentance is a vital, critical component of salvation. Salvation cannot occur with out it.

I am not sure of why people are associating repentance with works, repentance is not a work, it is a change from being a slave to your heart to a dedication to the Holy Spirit.

Love in Christ,

Jim