Praise God there are still some justices on our Supreme Court that have their wits about them and abide by our Constitution.

This morning they voted, 5 to 4, to strike down the Washington D.C. law that prohibited ownership of handguns. In the majority decision they also stated that historically both prior to enacting the second amendment and after it has been the right of the people to own handguns.

If you are interested there is a good news story on Foxnews.com and from the story you can click a link that will take you to the full version of the decision. Of course there are also some statements from the liberal branch who were in the minority in the decision.

In Christ,
George

I cannot understand why any Christian would want to own a gun.

To protect what I've got and to take what you've got.
That's sarcasm in case you couldn't tell.

I have one to protect my family and home. I also use it to do a little hunting during hunting season.

Here there are more knives than guns on the street (as far as I know.) The government are trying yo crack down on them and have a campaingn which says, "If you carry a knife, you are more likely to be stabbed."

Well Brother, I can't understand the Lord either so I guess there are just things in life that we can't understand.

In Christ,
George

You have GOT to be kidding me Davo.

To me, that is like saying, I cannot understand why any christian would want to own a car. There is no logical correlation whatsoever.

This post was last modified: Fri Jun 27, 2008 09:56 AM by Jim.

By the way, going back to the SC decision, let's not forget that just a day before, they decided that it would be "inhumane" to apply the death penalty to child rapists.

I guess that after a stupid decision like that, they knew they had to make a different decision to somehow in their minds "redeem themselves"

I am a retired career policeman, when I first came on the C.P.D. ('77) I was told by my Captain there was no room for Christians (as I aways wore a cross on my tie) in the violent world of law enforcement. I referred to Romans 13:4 (and still do in my salutation here), and to the Centurion of great Faith (Luke 7:1-10), that who better to make instant life & death decisions than Christians.
As free citizens there will never be a Cop on every corner let alone one in your house to stand guard, but this Countries forefathers & its Constitution writers new what crime, tyranny and National defense would be strengthened by a law abiding & armed citizenry.
Yes 'Davo' its even a fun sport, try a 'Rod & Gun' club or shooting range where there is safe, certified instruction. You can try out several different types weapons (pistols, revolvers, single-shot), even learning the fun of .22 cal. rifle, air rifle target practice can be loads of fun. Those benefits will carry into the safe use & home-personal defense you will be comfortable with!!! By-golly you may enjoy the delicacy of putting Gods food on the table (Gen. 1:26-28); a wild 'turkey' for Thanksgiving...a Christmas wild goose or venison roast...that first wild brook trout breakfast in the spring...thank you Lord for this thy blessed & bountiful table & our sustenance. Amen & Amen.

Davo, I hate to be insensitive, but I got the same attitude from a Jamaican friend of mine. He seems to have great trouble understanding us "yanks" and our guns. I think it is more a cultural confusion than a spiritual one. We who have gained our independence with and defended our freedom by the weapons which we own personally seem to have a different prospective on the message of the Scriptures about freedom and government.

I believe the day is coming,[i.e.Marshall Law].

I have a 38 pistol,that stays in my night stand for me and my wifes personal protection.In 1982,a girl was murdered in my front yard by her ex-husband.This man shot and killed in cold blood a beautiful young lady,with two young kids one 3 and 5.

I was 16 years old,and a few friends and a cousin was witnesses,to what this man did.There was a trial,and he plea bargained,and received a 21 year sentence with 14 years suspended.Low and behold the man got out early for good behaviour serving around 4 1/2 years.

This man is a free man today,dealing drugs and abusing his wife.

The two young children 3 and 5 was put into the custody of their grand-parents who were staunch Jehovah`s Witnesses.Upon the Christmas, after their mother being murdered, by their father,were bought for them Christmas presents from family and friends.The grand-parents who did not believe in Christmas or presents threw the toys in a pond close to the home.The 3 year old boy seen this and got away from the grand parents supervision,and went into the pond to get his toys and drowned.

This man,shot at me and those present,and yes he was shot back at.

All I can say,if someone is against owning guns then dont own one.Dont tell me I dont have this right when I do.

When the day does come,that the right to own a gun comes,then you will see a war between dedicated hunters,that will be world war three right here in America.Men will fight for that right even until death,im sure.

There are many preachers being trained and used by Fema in American Church`s that are totally taking Romans 13 out of context.

They are being taught or will be taught,when Marshall Law comes to obey God`s government and give over your guns, or you will be rebelling against God`s Government, here on earth.I say blasphemy.

Also Church`s in America that have Mason`s in their Pulpits or in their membership,need to run from that Church,because the God of Masonry is Lucifer,and if you are below a 30th degree Mason you are led a-stray on purpose.Southern Baptist,are full of Mason`s.

Go listen to a dialogue between a now x-mason and the late Dr Walter Martin.Also listen to the one the cult of Liberal Theology.

http://www.waltermartin.com/realaudio.html


Maranatha!

Amen to both you and Chuckie Trout

Now for me, I thought my position on guns was pretty clear, so if it is/was not, let me illuminate:

I am a gun collector. I love guns, and am an avid sportsman. You know, just like the British were for a couple hundred years before they outlawed their guns except for strict standards for hunters.

I am also a competition handgunner, and I shoot fairly regularly in IDPA matches. That is (Internation Defensive Pistol Association).

I own handguns, because:

1) I enjoy it.

and

2) Personal Defense

And don't tell me that if a nation outlaws handguns, then crime rates drop, that is an outright lie from the pit of hell. Look at England and Australia, perfect examples of what happens when they are outlawed.

Also, biblically speaking, to say that a christian does not need a gun, would be the same thing as saying that King Saul's or David's armies did not need swords or weapons as ordinated by God.

Just my .02

Love in Christ,

Jim

This post was last modified: Sun Jun 29, 2008 04:31 PM by Jim.

Amen Brother Jim.

You know I see it like this.

If our Government thinks out-lawing guns of any sort is going to help crime rate drop they are dead wrong.Just like drugs without a prescription is illegal,but does that stop people from getting them?No,its just another way our government has a way of getting money.

Whether it is believed or not,there is no war on drugs.

Our Government officials,could keep illegal drugs out of America if they were serious about doing so.Our Government has roads that let drugs in this country,so they can keep the money flowing through our court systems by those that get arrested,and if they get no money from them we the tax payers pay their room and board along with feeding them through higher taxes ect.

The most informative site on evils in our government ect is from a KJV Bible believing Fundamental site.Marshall law-police state-cults ect.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com

When I was at school, we had the death penalty and unarmed policemen. When police had to draw arms to confront a gunman, it was so rare it made front page news. Now we don't have the death penalty, but have armed police on the streets, armed response units mainly, not the run of the mill bobby. You are very unlikely to confront an armed intruder, most shootings seem to be police "accidents", that is armed police raiding a house suspecting a gunman and shooting an unarmed person "by mistake."

Although there are a number of "street incidents" with guns and murders, they are really very few and mostly drugs related, I should think.

If they were telling us the truth on BBC, CNN, and other stations, this wouldn't be the case. Don't you find it a little strange that they remanded the law that prevented bobbys from carrying firearms? And why do you think that is? This is precisely to what I was referring.

As a tongue in cheek bumper sticker says here, and it rings truth:

When they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns"

Love in Christ,

Jim

When we had the death penalty, if a gang went out with only one carrying a gun, and shot and killed someone, they were all liable to be hung. There was a case when I was young which stll makes the headlines. Chris Craig shot band killed a police officer, but was not hung as he was too young. His associate, Bentley who had been detained by the police, was hung.

One gang member interviewed after the DP was revoked said, that in those previous days, only a fool would go out with someone who was armed, but afterwards only a fool would not take a gun.

I'm not surprised that all your criminals have guns, if they break into someone's house and know that they will be armed, they are unlikely to go unarmed.

There was a case on the news here recently where a father found some ammunition in his son's room and reported him to the police who raided the house and found a gun. The lad was arrested and just a few days ago was given a sentence of 3½ years. He could have got 5, which is the usual minimum sentence.