Well, whatdy'a know! The shroud's a man-made fake.
As if we didn't know already!

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/6145957/...made-fake/

I thought this quote from the article was enlightening:

The RC church knows that the shroud cannot be proven to be genuine, and thus they do not claim that the relic is authentic.
And yet, they continue to occasionally put it on public display as though it is something worth seeing for millions of people.

But Christians have no need of a lifeless piece of cloth. Our Saviour is alive, and risen from the grave.

"...Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen..."
(from Luke 24:5,6)

We were negatiating a business deal with the Oxford professor who did the radiocarbon dating of the shroud, at the time it was being dated by several labs. We were told he would smash his equipment if he got a date of around 30 AD

Same professor dated Leakey's finds of early man at 200-300 million years. He was given more samples, & got a result of 4 million. "STOP THERE!" said Leakey. "We can believe that result, & it makes me the finder of the earliest human fossils."

Why is that fake in the news again?

The RCC has ALWAYS from its inception in Rome by the Emperor/1st Pope Constantine relied heavily on paganistic worship of relics, statues, candles, jewelry, and various other forms of idolatry to keep its members subject to the papal priesthood hierarchy and blinded from the TRUTH of the simplicity of the one true gospel.

The fact of the matter is that not only is the Turin Linen a fabulous fake (it is not a shroud so I wont call it that and I hope no one else will either), so is the Roman Catholic Religion!

When you think about it, the Roman Catholics and the evolutionists have something in common - they both place great faith in relics.
The RCs have their fake shrouds, "saint's" bones, fragments of the "true cross", etc., and the evolutionists have their fossils that supposedly prove evolution between species - like Richard Leakey's "Lucy".

Well, people do love the darkness of superstition rather than the light of God's truth as revealed in his Word!

Yes, good point! It's just a piece of cloth. I suppose referring to it as a "shroud" makes it sound as though it was once used to wrap a dead body - which of course is not true.

P.S. Mr. Leakey discovered Lucy. I wonder if he'll ever dig up Desi Arnaz?

Amen, Amen and Amen!

I thought this silly thing had been proven a fake a number of years ago. Oh well, what can we expect from a "church" which still has our Saviour hanging on the cross?

In Christ,
George

Yes and His poor mother, the Queen, is "reigning" in His place while he just hangs there!

Our local RC church in dedicated to "Mary, Queen of the Apostles."

Years ago, a textile scientist at the "Shirley Institute" (UK Textile Research Association) was allowed to examine the shroud. (Before the carbon dating.)

It was made of Mediterranean grown fibres.

From David Cloud's Friday Church News, This week


ITALIAN SCIENTIST RECREATES THE SHROUD OF TURIN (Friday Church News Notes, October 9, 2009, http://www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Luigi Garlaschelli of the University of Pavia has reproduced the technique that was probably used to create the Shroud of Turin. The 14-foot-long cloth, which resides in the Roman Catholic cathedral in Turin, Italy, is alleged to be the burial shroud of Jesus. It appears to bear the image of a wounded, long-haired man. The history of the shroud only goes back to the 14th century, and it was condemned even by some Catholic authorities as a fraud. In 1389 Bishop Pierre D’Arcis exposed it as “a clever sleight of hand.” In spite of its shady history many Catholics and even some Protestants consider it authentic, and it is trotted out on special occasions for the “veneration of the faithful.” The Roman Catholic Church has always shown interest in relics such as this shroud, and multitudes have made pagan-lik e pilgrimages to offer devotion to such things. Rome’s relic business is very lucrative. Radiocarbon tests by three separate laboratories in 1988 dated the shroud to the 13th or 14th century. Garlaschelli reproduced it using materials and techniques that were available in the Middle Ages. The Bible believer knows that the Turin Shroud is not the burial wrapping of Jesus, because John 20:7 says that Jesus’ head was wrapped separately with a cloth called “the napkin.” Further, Jesus did not have long hair. He was a Nazarene, because He grew up in Nazareth, but unlike Samson, Jesus was not a Nazarite (Numbers 6:1-5). His own apostle said that “if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him” (1 Cor. 11:14).

Great article, Davo. The fact that the shrou...er, I mean Turin Linen (sorry IM4given!) bears the imprint of a long-haired man proves that it had nothing to do with the Lord Jesus. Jesus never sinned or engaged in shameful behaviour (such as growing long hair).

Sometimes you'll find RC churches named "Immaculate Heart of Mary", "Mary Help of Christians", "Our Lady of the Assumption", "Our Lady Queen of Peace", etc. This sort of thing both blasphemes Christ and completely distorts what Mary really was.

Some relevant verses:

"And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour."
(Luke 1:46,47. No "immaculate conception". Mary was a godly woman, but also a sinner in need of salvation like every other person)

"His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he (Jesus) saith unto you, do it."
(John 2:5. The only command Mary is ever recorded as giving. She pointed people to the Lord Jesus Christ, and she did not regard herself as some kind of "co-mediatrix")

"God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble."
(Psalm 46:1. God is the "Help of Christians", not Mary or anyone else.)

It is like that blood that is supposed to liquify every so often, and if it doesn't the people of the town panic. It always does liquify, eventually. No doubt after a lot of cash has been handed over. I don't know if any of the people see it ar if they are just told.

It is like the Columbo film where he is trying to work out if someone has ESP or not. A lad who is into magic said to him "You know it's a fake, you just need to work out how he does it."

We know these Roman "miracles" are fakes. The sad part is that Rome has admitted that the shroud is not genuine, but it is still revered.

The part of the Roman Catholic paganism that worships Mary as a diety is based primarily on the Roman Religions of the Emporer Constatine who simply renamed all the Roman Gods and Godesses with Christian names when he supposedly "converted" to Christianity in the 3 rd century and became the RCCs first Pope. Mary became the Queen of Heaven after Queen Diana was replaced by her and all of her temple prostitutes and vestle virgins became the first Roman Catholic nuns. Even the priesthood is based on the Roman Pagan system.

I do believe that this false pagan religion is spoken of in the Book of Revelations.