I own a Scofield Reference Bible Copyright 1909,1917;Copyright renewed,1937,1945 by Oxford Press,Inc.

1st off it seems Scofield believes the Church has replaced Gods plans for the Jews page 986.

2nd off 1st John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,the Father,the Word,and the Holy Ghost:and these three are one.{Page 1325}Look what the marginal note has to say on this verse.{quote}It is generally agreed that v.7 has no real authority,and has been inserted.{unquote}

I dont know about you but this verse was inspired by God and that is very real authority.I have been told by a IFB Preacher that Scofield was very dangerous in some of his views and theology concerning the Church and I partly believe this preacher was right.Also Scofield supported Wescott & Hort and he believed and taught that like charismatics and pentecostals that healing is included in the Atonement just read in his foot notes on page 1192 pertaining to {Romans 1:16}1.The Heb.and Gr.words for salvation imply the ideas of deliverance,safety,preservation,HEALING,and soundness.

I do believe God can do all of these things but if healing were included in the Atonement then when every soul were saved they would be healed also.

Im getting the idea that my Scofield Bible was a bad investment because it is not a Independent Fundamental Baptist view of sound doctrine.

God bless you all.

Bro Miller.

I have a King James study bible that includes commentary by Charles Spurgeon, as well as a complete verse-by verse study of Revelation done by Salem Kirban. So far, I find that the commentaries are accurate and in keeping with what I perceive as truth.
I formerly owned a WA Criswell study bible (NKJV), but have since discontinued using it, as I no longer feel the NKJV is accurate.

RobNC1966

God bless you for your reply.I just quit a local SBC because I told the elderly ladies in Sunday School while they were in the process of hiring a new preacher that if that preacher came preaching from any other Bible than the KJB Me and my wife would leave.

I hated to leave but we had just celebrated that Church`s 160 years and noone but a few auditions for the preacher man used any other Bible than the KJB.One came and filled in one sunday and I wanted to run because it sounded like he was preaching from Ugene Petterson`s Message bible.

The new preacher told me and my wife he uses the NKJV and the KJB in his preaching and teaching.I said brother my ears only listen to the KJB in preaching and teaching then he said the NKJV only changes the thee`s and thou`s.I said to my wife thou and thee are leaving.

I think the reason there are no revivals and 100% true conversions today is because there is a famine in the land of God`s word being preached from.The Spirit of God convicts of sin when Gods Words are preached from and how can God`s Spirit prick the lost sinners heart from corrupted words?

Christianity has turned into a circus of Churchianity.

I know the NKJV is supposed to be translated from the TR but something is just not right in the NKJV.

In Christ.

Bro Miller.

I understand that, brother! The church that I grew up in and have been a part of for most of my life has turned to other "versions" of the Word, specifically the NKJV, NIV, and the Message. I found myself confused and lost because I could not comprehend how a SB pastor could preach and teach from any source other than the KJV. I spent quite a few years studying from "alternate" scripture sources before finally realizing that the King James was the ONLY source from which God's Word could be trusted as the truth.
Now, my wife and have finally found a church where the pastor is fundamental and only uses the King James, and we have begun attending services there. I have begun to rediscover the Word again, and have developed a real hunger and desire to study and understand what God's plan is for my life, and what He is saying to the world today. Only through the King James have I found the "Living Word of God", and I praise Him for leading me back to the Truth.

I am pleased to see some activity on this thread as well as to see two recent members active. I have been reading over the thread and found something I wanted to comment on.

Personally I find this argument or statement to be somewhat dangerous in one respect that is very important. That is the respect of a new believer. It has been stated previously in the thread that study Bibles are good for the new believer.

I believe the opposite to be true. If a new believer or anyone for that matter, who does not have much knowledge of the Bible uses a study Bible that contains doctrinal errors in the notes how are they to discern that? The vast majority of the people I know who use a study Bible on a regular basis tend to believe the notes of the author and accept them as truth. That is dangerous.

As to the recent statements on the NKJV, it is supposedly true to the King James Bible with minor revisions in spelling and such but it goes much farther than that. Somewhere on the 'net there is available a link to a site (perhaps there is more than one) where a person can select various versions and create for themselves a parallel Bible. I have used the site to compare the true Bible with the NKJV. The NKJV makes what appear to be subtle changes in words that entirely change the meaning of verses. Some of them even create doctrinal errors.

I will see if I can locate one of the sites and post at least one of the instances I write of.

For Church use I have a Bible that was printed by Bearing Precious Seed, Local Church Publishers. It is a "pure" Bible. What I mean when I say pure is that it contains no references or comments at all. It is nothing but scripture. I very much enjoy it as it has nothing to detract from the text of the Bible. I personally have a disdain for study Bibles for the simple reason that if a person uses one, that person as I stated not having much Bible knowledge, and part of it is incorrect or even doctrinally wrong speaking of the notes and such, how are they to know what to trust and what not?

Oh, I know that is what more mature Christians can be a help with. However when a person is in their own home or wherever they are, and they run into something they believe is wrong, it is really a task to pick up the phone or get on the 'net or even use email to ask questions. I had a student who ran into that difficulty and the result was that until I got him a decent Bible he was turned away from spending as much time as he should reading and studying.

In Christ,
George

God bless you George and Robert for your comments.

Yes also there are counter-feit KJV Bibles.For instance the easiest way to check this to make sure you are getting the real deal is to go to Genesis 8:1 if the last verse is spelled {assuaged} instead of {asswaged} then you can get a bit worried.Also go to St Matthew 4:1 and look at where Jesus is led up of the Spirit.If Spirit is spelled with a lower case S s you can bet that Bible is a counterfeit by demoting the Holy Spirit of the living God.Also in Hebrews 4:12 twoedged in a counterfeit is two-edged.

Yes when people that buy a King James they need to look at them throughly or they may not get what they think they are getting.Thomas Nelson is very guilty of this as Zondervan/Harper Collins who publish the satanic bible written by the late Anton Le Vey of the church of satan.

I about fell out when I found out that Harper Collins owned by Zondervan prints and publishes the satanic bible and Zondervan owns the copyright I think to the NIV Per-version.

In Christ.

Brother Miller.

Crosswalk.com is one website where they allow you to make your own parallel Bible.

In Christ,
PreacherE

Thank you for that Brother. I spent a lot of time this morning trying to find a site that would allow me to do it. I used to have a link to such a site in my favorites folder.

The one constant I found through the sites I visited is that the NKJV is NOT available due to copyright restraints. My word, the holder of the copyright does not even want their Bible to be made public without payment of fees. The least expensive place I found to use the NKJV cost $25.00!

In Christ,
George

You know Brothers I wanted to share what one preacher said that was a Assembly of God preacher.He said why do I use the King James Bible?

He said unless you have a word for word translation as the King James Bible you just dont really have a Bible,but rather a religious book.

Just wanted to share.

In Christ.

Brother Miller.

They're only in it for the money brother! One of my favorite Gospel Hyms is called Only the Blood but these people take the blood of unsuspecting (or perhaps not so unsuspecting) people by their thirst for profits.

In Christ,
George

Amen Brother George.

{St Matthew 16:26}AV KJB

For what is a man profited,if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul.

You know Brother George I love reading books and visit my local Baptist book store on a regular basis its in Minden La and the master store is @ http://www.abaptist.org the Church on the property of the book store is called Calvary Baptist and they also have a Seminary.

Me and the lady at the store a few weeks back had a conversation about the church growth movement and Rick warrens purpose driven lies ect.She is also a member of Calvary Missionary Baptist ABA and said she never thought the day would come that she would see things in her church so worldly allowed like dress and the music with drums and electric guitars and long hair on men and short hair on women ect.She said she is thankful though that the preacher still stands on the KJB.

If these other things have creeped into their church im afraid it wont be long before the KJB is tossed and considered an outdated book.

This church is not affiliated with the southern baptist convention but is an ABA Church.American Baptist Association.

Their store sells some very dangerous books and bible per-versions especially the one by John Hagee In Defense of Israel that Hagee denies Jesus claimed to be the Messiah and the Jews can be saved without believing in Christ ect.

If a young unlearned Christian gets their hands on that book especially a Jewish adult or child and goes to their graves believing Hagee that soul is doomed to hell as I believe Hagee is by teaching such garbage.

Lord help us to be bereans.{Acts 17:11}

I read somewhere that Zondervan are owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Yes down at the bottom he has quite some assets including Zondervan/Harper Collins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarperCollins

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/murdoch.htm


Did You Know That The Publishers of the N.I.V. also publish the Satanic Bible?
Zondervan first published the NIV New Testament in partnership with the International Bible Society in 1973, later publishing the complete NIV Bible in 1978. (They Publish the NIV)

In 1988, Zondervan became a division of HarperCollinsPublishers, one of the largest publishers in the world. (Owned by Hapercollins, proud publisher of the Satanic Bible)




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