There is nothing wrong with Protestants joining forces with Catholics to end abortion and to bring the United States back to morality.

Just as their is nothing wrong with the New World Order ushering in the
"peaceful age", huh?

The Roman Catholic religion is NOT a Christian Church. They like the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, have another jesus (2 Cor. 11:13-15.)

Therefore there would be not point in working with such people, because in reality you'd have saved people working along side unsaved people, and this is forbidden in Scripture, especially in a spiritual sense (2 Cor. 6:14-18.)

James
http://www.excatholicsforchrist.com

jgb321,

The Catholic Church does not have another Christ because in the Apostles and Nicene Creeds it states "We believe in One Lord Jesus Christ" which is the Christ of the Bible and not another Christ. The Catholic Church has always believed that Christ is God. The Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons have never believed that Christ is God. Every normal Protestant believes that the Catholic Church is a True Christian Church because the Catholic Church believes that Christ is God and believes in the Holy Trinity. My brother who belongs to a Non Denominational Church is Born Again and believes that the Catholic Church is a True Christian Church because the Catholic Church believes that Christ is God and believes in the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is what separates True Churches from the Cults.

If the Catholic Church believes just like Protestants that abortion is murder and should be abolished and if the Catholic Church believes just like Protestants that the United States has to come back to its moral foundation then what is wrong with Protestants and Catholics joining forces to end abortion and to bring the United States back to its moral foundation?

There's more to being a Christian, than just fighting against abortion. I am sorry, but there are too many doctrinal problems with the Church of Rome and Biblical Christianity to be reconciled, or glossed over for the sake of ecumenicalism. Some of the brethren on this forum will tell you that your Pope is the antichrist, and if that were true, imagine where that leaves you?

Last night a Mormon lady was saved on the radio. She was told to renounce her man-made religion and seek fellowship with true born again Christians.

I am still not sure how to categorise your theological views - for the Church of Rome would class you a heretic, yet the Protestant Church would struggle to understand your disobedience and refusal to obey Christ (John 14:15.)

"Thou art not far from the kingdom of God" (Mk. 12:34.)

I wonder what others on this forum think of this?

James

One other thing, you're not saved by repenting each and every night. You're only Born Again and Justified ONCE. Daily confessing of sins is Biblical for fellowship with God, but when a person has repented and trusted Christ, then they are saved at that moment - forever!

I hope Mr. Mazar understands exactly what we feel on this.

Amos 3:3
"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Just like jgb said, it is a very different matter to agree on something and still be separate, than be joined together because you agree on one thing.

Even satanists agree with Christians on some things, but that is not justification to join the satanists in harmony.

I have no association with the Catholic Church. I feel we have given pretty good explanations on this site as to why we do not.

Love in Christ,

Jim

jgb321,

I really do not care that I would be considered a heretic by the Catholic Church if any Catholic Church official knew that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines. But no Catholic Church official knows that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines because I have not told my Priest that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines because it really is none of his business that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines.

I know that I was only saved one time when I received Christ as Savior. By rededicating my life to Christ ever night when I go to bed I am not claiming to get saved every night. The Bible states to be constantly be rededicating ones life to Christ and to ask Christ for forgivenss of sins constantly. Which I do when I pray to Christ every night and ask for Him for forgiveness of any sins that I may have committed during the day.

It was good that the Mormon woman who had received Christ as her Savior was told to leave the Mormon Church and join a church that believes that Christ is God and believes in the Holy Trinity. The same thing would apply to Jehovah Witnesses, Christian Scientists and Scientologists who receive Christ as their Savior. But a Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or a Mainline Protestant who receives Christ as their Savior does not have to leave the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church because the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church and Mainline Protestant Churches have always believed that Christ is God and have always believed in the Holy Trinity

Jim,

I have looked up what satanists believe and they do not agree with Christians on anything. They do not believe in the Holy Trinity(Father, Son and Holy Spirit), they do not believe that Christ is God and they sure don't believe that Christ is the way of salvation. All they believe in is worshipping Satan.

Ok, first, what you are going to read that quickly about a subject is not conclusive enough to give you particular insight into how something truly is. So let's just say that I am very familiar with what satanists believe and don't believe, I will go no further into why I know this, I simply ask you to take me at my word.

Most satanists do believe in Jesus Christ and accept the fact that He is the Saviour. So does that mean we should walk together? No it does not. Anyone that recognizes and believes in Satan cannot deny the deity of Jesus Christ. How can someone believe in the something created, yet not believe in the creator? Yes, my friend, satanists know and believe very much in Jesus.

Please make sure you know something about a subject before asserting anything about that subject.

Jim

One of the main problems with the Church of Rome today (and there are many), is the fact that they are very political in all matters of faith, business and politics. Political commentators criticise the religious right in the States for their involvement in politics, yet the Catholic church has its nose it everybody's business, and has over 150 ambassadors (nuncio's if the country is Catholic) around the globe.

Many Catholic writers have even exposed the sheer hypocrisy of this church, i.e., shares in birth control and Miller Brewing [beer] Company
(http://www.excatholicsforchrist.com/arti...ances.htm.)

Robert in many ways is a typical Catholic. Doesn't buy their religious and bigoted package, yet is very much involved in the abortion fight, which some may be interested to know is Rome's main way of seducing and drawing people into the ecumenical movement.

In England 90% of churches are in this apostate ecumenical movement, so if a person does get saved, then like Robert, my advise to them would be to leave such a Church ASAP.

Robert also seems to think that if a Church holds to the deity of Christ and the Trinity, that this somehow makes them orthodox. Well, they certainly couldn't be categorised as a cult, but to confess these two doctrines doesn't mean much today. For the demons in Scripture believe in Jesus' deity and they tremble.

One final point would be that organised religion tries to change people from the outside, i.e., don't do this and don't do that, while Biblical Christianity does the transforming from the inside out by making a sinner a new creature - Born Again.

James

jgb321,

But even if someone who has received Christ as their Savior does not leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church it would not have any bearing on their salvation or their gaining entrance into Heaven when they pass away. So what is this nonsense that whenever someone receives Christ as their Savior that they have to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or Mainline Protestant Churches? If church membership has no bearing on salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven then it should not matter which church someone who has received Christ as their Savior attends just as long as the church believes that Christ is God and believes in the Holy Trinity. If it is stated that somene who has received Christ as their Savior has to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or Mainline Protestant Church and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Church then whoever is making that statement must believe that church membership has something to do with salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. If they did not believe that church membership has something to do with salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven then they would not state that whenever someone receives Christ as their Savior that they have to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or Mainline Protestant Churches and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Church. That is logic. My brother who is Born Again by receiving Christ as his Savior and belongs to a Non Denominational Church believes that Catholics, Eastern Orthodox or Mainline Protestants who receive Christ as their Savior do not have to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or Mainline Protestant Churches.

Let me ask you a question, please? If you are Born Again, then when you're witnessing to those that aren't saved, do you take them into your church? A Church whose 'cardinal doctrines' you don't believe in? Wouldn't it be better to have a proper biblical foundation - a church or group of believers where one another can agree on the main points?

The same question could be asked to an Anglican and Methodist in the UK, for they are all the same these days - apostate and too liberal.

If you are going to grow in your faith and for God to use you at all, I cannot see any point in staying where you are. You're only going to stunt your growth in Christ.

This post was last modified: Tue Feb 14, 2006 07:55 AM by jgb321.

Robert, and not just to Robert, but all Christians abroad,

First of all your very mode of thinking is selfish. The very problem with christianity today is humanism. Humanism believe God reigns in Heaven for the happiness of man, Jesus Christ was in incarnate for the happiness of man, angels in Heaven are for the happiness of man...see the fallacy yet?

Salvation is not for us, it is for the glory of God. We don't seek salvation because we want to go to Heaven, and we don't seek salvation because we fear going to Hell.

I say to you there are going to be many shocked people when they stand before God and find out their name is not written in that book.

I also say to you that a man that does not have a regenerate spirit better take a good look at whether he has truly been given salvation from Christ. The catholic church will not save, and most certainly doctrine will not save you.

A man with a regenerate spirit no longer wants to serve self, he wants to serve the true and living God. He is not blinded by doctrine and what he can get out of the bible. He uses the bible, God's Holy Word to examine himself. He desires the sanctification of Christ. He simply desires to do everything that the Lord wants him to do even if he goes to Hell at the end of it simply because Jesus Christ is worthy to be praised and adored.

If we will not glorify Him in redemption, He will find someone, or even something that WILL!

Love in Christ,

Jim

This post was last modified: Tue Feb 14, 2006 07:55 AM by Jim.

Jim, who is this airmed at, please?

You posted before I had a chance to post.