Manuscript Evidence. A Comprehensive Study in BIBLE INTRODUCTION for use in the training of men for the Baptist ministry.

Prepared by: Pastor Robert J. Sargent

Bible Baptist Church Publications

http://www.baptistpublications.org


Has anyone heard of this book? It is quite extensive. My husband is in his 2nd year at the Bible Institute at our local IFB church. He was given this book last trimester, and I am now looking through it. It contains a lot of information. However, I need help in deciphering some of the material. It is a big green book with loads of material in it. I would love to become more familiar with the KJVO with regards to witnessing to the lost. Better yet, I know what I believe (because I have been attending 2 good IFB---KJVO churches since late 1999) but, I want to be able to take this material out into the lost world. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance.

This post was last modified: Mon Jan 12, 2009 02:33 PM by candlelight.

I am not familiar with the book in question, however, I do own some of Bro. Sargent's other books. It's very good material from what I have seen.

In Christ,
PreacherE

Hey Mrs. Candlelight, we used Bro. Sargent's books on doctrine in Bible college. They are very well-written and I believe extremely accurate. Please describe what you need help with and I'm sure that there are a few folks around the boards that would love to help someone witness for the Lord!
In Christ,
Bro. Chuck

Thank you brothers, for your responses to my thread. I posted this on another site, but did not get a response.

My question is how to approach this ever growing population of Bible agnostics in the world today? For example, the number of churches that use use the NIV (including Baptist churches). I have come to this conclusion. Instead of telling people that I believe in the KJVO Bible b/c God inspired it before man penned it into words...maybe, I can take the approach of the development of languages? Lecture 4---Communication goes through a history on the languages. A. Language Was Supernaturally Endowed Upon Man. B. Earth's Many Languages Began At Babel. C. Languages Are Divided According To The Nations. D. The Languages Of The Old Testament World. E. The Languages Of The New Testament World. F. The Development Of the ENGLISH Language... and this list goes on from this point.

My concern is that the NIV Bible is the RCC...and, most perversions come from the Vatican. The NIV so closely resembles the RCC in every way, shape, and form. I do believe that if people are given these basic facts, that some might come to faith through this proof. The evidence is certainly all over the place. Satan is just working especially hard in these last days with perversions galore. These MV's seem to come out of thin air. Oh my!

Hey sister, I have a link to a series of messages on the Bible that would be of tremendous help in the area that you are speaking of. Just follow this link: http://www.biblepreachingarchives.org/au...0Knox/KJV/
This is the best series of messages on the KJB that I have ever heard. Much study and many prayers must have gone into it.
In Christ,
Bro. Chuck

Thanks Bro. Chuck. I appreciate the information! Yes..."much study and many prayers" have gone into this series.

I do have a question concerning those in foreign countries? "Bearing Precious Seed" in Milford, OH has translated the KJB into 38 foreign languages...from what I understand. What does a Christian say to those critics with regards to a foreign language? This is something that is difficult to explain to Christians and the lost with regards to the KJB... KWIM?

I agree, that does seem to be a dividing line between a lot of folks. I am persuaded that we should use the KJB as the basis for all Biblical translations (english into other languages). Some would argue that we should use the Textus Receptus manuscripts. I am firmly sure that the reason that almighty God put the Word of God into the english language so that an english-speaking people could be used to take His Word to the uttermost ends of the earth. And if you'll take note of history, America has sent more missionaries to the field than any other country. Don't get me wrong, there have been many others but God has used this country in a great way and we have reaped the benefit of being faithful to God in the past. As far as the present day, it seems that there is a falling away from the Word of God and we can see the deterioration of this great country before our eyes. I'm still claiming II Chronicles 7:14, which we all know says, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." Instead of praying, "God bless America," I'm praying, "God please save America." I love this country but I love the Lord Jesus Christ more. My heart breaks for this country. My family has fought for this country for four generations, I myself served in the National Guard. Every day, I think that we have the chance to once again do the work that God has given us to do, to spread the Gospel of Peace to the world. I wil not be discouraged and I do not seek to discourage others. We sure need a real revival though....
In Christ,
Bro. Chuck

Candlelight may I ask you a quite pointed question? If not then I am going to ask it anyway. You say you are "KJVO." I find that rather interesting because the King James Bible is NOT a "version" hence the word from "KJVO" ought to be stricken from our vocabulary. I have been blessed with being the steward of a number of antique Bibles including One printed in London in 1688. Those antique Bibles do not contain the word "version." The King James Bible is the one and only true Bible. The others are versions or perversions.

In Christ,
George

Yes...Bro. Chuck! You stated it accurately when you said "dividing line." I truly believe that the KJB is what God has led us to use for translations into other languages, as well! However, I run across Baptists who have those fancy computers that translate the KJB to Japanese, Chinese, Mandarin, etc. The words come out slightly garbled, and I don't know what to say. I know that God has preserved His Word in the KJB and...being the true gentleman that God is, He does not stumble on His feet (so to speak.)

I merely state that the Lord has the answers to all of these questions, and He has equipped Christian men to accurately take the English and translate it into foreign languages. I don't know about you...but, I think that if one ministry in OH---"Bearing Precious Seed" can translate the KJB into 38 different languages, that is a pretty good start. At least, we know it can be done. Amen!

I love the scripture in II Chronicles 7:14. I know it was written to Israel, but the USA has been blessed immensely throughout her short history. God continues to bless us in spite of ourselves. One thing that has me concerned now, though, other than the soon-to-be president... is Israel being abandoned at this point. We know what the scripture says regarding Israel:

Genesis 12:3...And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Yes, we do need a revival! However, somehow... I think that repentance is going to have to come before that time. How much longer is the Lord going to be patient and long suffering? Only He knows, and until that time:

Philippians 3:14-17...14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. 16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. 17 Brethren, be followers, together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. "Pressing Toward the Goal"

Thank you Brother George!! I used to constantly get corrected on another site for stating that the KJB is the one and only "true" Bible. I have been taught only what it says in the KJB---God's Holy Word! I went from having absolutely nothing...to the KJB! I grew up in the RCC, where they told us, in Vatican II, that the Bible was a "bunch of fairy tales." So...when I did my "about face" as the Lord drew me into the IFB...the KJB just came naturally to me. I have known nothing else. Praise God!

Yes...all other Bibles are "perversions." I like to call them counterfeit Bibles. Now, why would I want to use something fake? That doesn't make any sense to me. It is like having to eat "chopped liver" when I can have "Fillet Mignon?"

P.S. ~ KJVO is stricken from my vocabulary! Amen!

George, you are so right. When we lived in Nevada we as a family were King James, however there were no KJO churches in that area. (although the church we went to had it as the bible to be used in its Constitution) When we moved to Idaho and joined a KJ 1611 church we were so blessed at the difference it made in our children's walk with the Lord. Having a church backing what we believed in the home. Well, As you know my husband has been out of work for the last 7 months so we were down there looking for work. (We have contacts there, We don't have here in Idaho.) Before we left we discussed with each other, prayed, and my husband decided that if he went to work in Nevada the children and I would stay here and he would travel back and forth.
I was trying to explain this to one of my dear friends. She was very excited that we may be moving back so when I told her we would not be moving back and what we decided she was so hurt. She kept saying King James Version. She was convinced that if we discipled our daughter at home she would be fine. Finally I said to her that we believe that the King James isn't a version, but the only true word of God and that we didn't want our children setting under the teaching of another Bible. She was shocked. I never use the word version now. I found that when I do it gives a miss interpretation of the views I have on the validity of other Bibles. It also takes away from the authority of it. It made it sound like a choice, like choosing between chocolate or white cake.
I was able to express myself correctly because I had read one of the other posts on this site and when I was speaking with her it came to mind. I am very thankful for this site.
Theresa

Sense you collect bibles I was wondering if you had any by John Rogers the martyr. he wrote under the Pseudonym Thomas Matthew. I am wanting a picture of the bible for sentimental reasons. I am direct descendant of his. - Theresa

This post was last modified: Tue Jan 13, 2009 01:06 PM by SummerHarvest.

I do not have any of his Bibles in my collection but I will do some research and see if I can find you a photo of one. I know a man who is a dealer in antique Bibles who just may have such a work. If I find one I will send it on to you.

In Christ,
George

thanks

Thank you for the information that you posted, SummerHarvest... regarding the KJB. This takes me back to my first IFB church where I was taught this, specifically. Since being on-line (on another forum) I thought that I was the one with the inadequate information. Ptl, that I was taught correctly from the "get-go." I never asked in our current IFB church, b/c something in the back of my mind told me that God gave me the truth back in 1999. I give Him praise and thanks for taking me from a lie directly to the truth! It makes me wonder what I ever did to deserve this wonderful miracle from God? Then grace and faith come into the picture.

Ephesians 2:8-9...8 For grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. "Man's Nature is Evil"