Amen!

Wait, I was not being contentious about the issue, yet we can no longer discuss the KJV unless we agree with the majority here? I'm afraid I don't understand.

What don't you understand? Obviously you still have not read the Statement of Faith, have you? You have not even referenced the statement of faith. You must agree with it, or you are asked not to post here.

What part of arguments does God enjoy and condone? None whatsoever. Our stance is on the KJV as the preserved Word of GOd, and this is opposed to the Modern corrupted versions today to which you do not agree. We have not been able to change anyones mind, and you will not change ours, so what is the point of discussing the matter? It will invariably lead to an argument. Arguments do not glorify God, so why have them?

Does that make it clear?

Nobody said you personally were being contentious about anything. I am simply very tired of having people come on this site, who don't even agree with our statement of faith, then feel they can post their opinion with no ramification whatsoever. Is that unbibilical? No, it is not. As a matter of fact, it is very biblical in being called to be separate.

Do I give an amen when I read a post from someone who is biblically accurate? Yes I do, you can see a lot of it. I will give an amen if someone glorifies God, and I will give a retort if it is not.

The KJV issue is a critical one to me. I feel it is the best preserved translation from the orginal Greek, and the MV's digress from the original Greek. You and nobody else will change my view on this.

I don't undertand why people confuse poignancy with harshness. But then again, I am sure the apostle Paul was accused of worse over his epistles.

I simply am very tired of seeing the Word of God spoken over and argued over, while what is given by the Word itself is almost completley ignored.

It's like, "let's talk about the Word of God. No, not what's in the Word of God, but let's dissect it itself", as if we have some moral obligation to verify it's authenticity inside our own minds and/or talks.

Hope this helps clarify.

Love in Christ,

Jim

Nate said:

I could not agree with you more! I agree that many things should be questioned. Get a deeper learning. Learn why, why, why.

Brother Tim answered in this way:

And the folllowing post, you agreed

Now, all of that being reviewed, please go back and read how many posts are over the KJV issue. It has been repeated, and repeated, and repeated. We have been over this more times than I care to imagine. I simply do not want to discuss it anymore. It seems that all of the other posting locations get put aside and people would rather argue over the Word of God itself, than what it says Ther eare very few active posts on doctrine anymore. It is either under the General Discussion or Bible Version location. Only the wise men who decide to stay out of the KJV discussion post there anymore. And what they post IS from the KJV, and it is good doctrine!

That is what I LOVE to see. Like-minded brethren discussing good doctrine, and fellowshipping! NOT a bunch of know-it-alls cutting and dissecting bible versions, and NEVER put forth any scripture whatsoever to support their intellectual views! And that does NOT glorify God!

If you want to talk doctrine, then do it! Why is the MV issue such an issue? Why does anyone take the time to say that the modern versions are correct? If they were, then you would have no desire to spend any time trying to defend it!. Just like I don't feel like "defending" the KJV, I would rather discuss what it SAYS for you and for me to do, our responsibilites to the Lord Jesus Christ!!

Love in Christ,

Jim

With respect, Brother Jim, I read the statement of faith before I joined, agreed to it, and I started posting. I had re-read it several times and still see nothing that reveals a KJV only requirement for members. Discussion in several threads specifically on the subject of versions have continued since I joined, hence my confusion on what prompted the 180 degree turn. If you do not wish to have the issue discussed, then the versions section should be locked. Otherwise folks like Greektim and I enter threads started by seasoned members, express viewpoints with which the members disagree, and we're suddenly told the issue is not up for discussion.

I agree it is Biblical to be separate when necessary, but I have no desire to separate from brothers with whom I agree with in so many other areas besides version preference.

This post was last modified: Sat Apr 26, 2008 06:36 PM by Nate.

Brother Nate, first of all I want to clarify for you that the King James Bible is NOT a "version." The name of "version" was only hung on it when the new translations started coming out. I have a collection of antiquarian Bibles. I have many, many of them that do not have the word "version" in the title of the book.

That being said you just don't seem to understand that version preference is extremely important to the vast majority of us here. We rely on the King James Bible to be the sole authority for both faith and practice.

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

There you see it in the Bible. He has given us all things that pertain to life (practice) and godliness (faith.)

We staunchly defend our beloved Bible. We do not choose to really hang out with people that are not like-minded. Some people say we are guilty of version worship. That is far from the truth. The truth is that we revere and respect the King James Bible as the inerrant Word of God. There is no one here of that ilk who will change their mind.

In Christ,
George

I just did read this thread and caught up. Jim, George, & the rest of the administrators, please be perfectly honest w/ me and I will honor your wish: if you would rather me or anyone else not discuss the KJV anymore, then I will be happy to comply. It might hurt to bite my tongue, but I will. I just wonder if the courtesy will go both ways. That is the true test.

I would love to discuss other doctrinal issues. I have been mulling a few over in my mind. I just wasnt sure if it was the right time or not.

I would rather the KJB issue be put to rest. It is not helping anyone, nor glorifiying to the Lord (which is the most important). To my knowledge, since this forum opened, nobody has had their mind changed over the matter, so what is the point?

I hope you do decide to start posting in other areas. I feel we could have better conversations in those areas and probably agree more than we thought we would.

To be honest, I truly thought you would stop posting GT, if the issue was put to rest.

Love in Christ,

Jim

No way. I love this forum. If I didn't, I would not have advertised it on my blog. I truly did not come just to debate the KJV. If you recall, I was very reluctant to begin a discussion about it. I would love to address different doctrinal issues. A few have already been addressed in which are extremely passionate to me (anything to do w/ Dispensationalism). I hope to add to the mix.

This post was last modified: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:49 PM by Greektim.

I sure hope we can get into some meatier things than exercise (which is a foul word to me), golf (where I make a score worthy of a pro bowler), guns (I've been on the wrong end enough times to last me), recipes (I was a short order cook once), and in case anyone tries, bowling (where my score would make a great golf round).

I'll take dukin' it out with GreekTim and Nate over their mixed-up ideas about the KJB any day over this other stuff.

Hey, did I mention that I am NOT pre-trib?

Now you've gone and done it Brother Tim. Lord help us on this one!

In Christ,
George

Many times when I read about tribulation in the Bible, either it's good for me, or that believers are going through it, (though it is not limited to believers).

Pretty good company, I'd say!

Brother Tim, out of curiosity what is your rapture view? You a premill? In fact, where do you stand w/ the Dispensational/Covenant Theology issue? That would help to lay some foundations for a new thread that is meatier.

GreekTim asks these prying, personal questions: (it is not polite to discuss politics or religion in mixed company )

I'm fer it! (if you mean the catching away of the saved)

Yes

I can spell the words. Tell me if you know of anyone that:

(a) can explain the whole concept of either/both on a 9th grade level (preferably with a little KJB thrown in), and

(b) has the agreement of a majority of fundamentalists to his view,

THEN I can give a better answer.

HaHaHa So when do you think that will happen in reference to the Tribulation? Or do you have a crazy left field view?

As to the 9th grader thing, I thought you wanted to talk about something meatier? What happened?
I am not quite sure what you are asking in letter (b). Most IFB's are Dispo's.