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Davo
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Doctrinal differences
Can anyone please give the main verses where MVs differ from the KJV doctrinally?
I know that I have noticed when someone is reading from a MV, some points which They seem to differ doctrinally, but I have never made note of them. Except, we had a Gideon at our church recently, who read from Luke ch.4, and I noticed that his bible did not have jesus healing the broken hearted.
David
Job 19:25 But as for me I know that my Redeemer liveth, And at last he will stand up upon the earth:
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Jim
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RE: Doctrinal differences
David, I have a word document that goes into this exact question you had, it is called "Bible Doctrines affected by modern versions". If you like I can email it to you. It is pretty conclusive, and it has only 19 pages, even though it is MS Word.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
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Davo
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RE: Doctrinal differences
THanks Jim
I have sent you a PM.
I have seen comments that there are no doctrinal differences whichever version you have.
David
Job 19:25 But as for me I know that my Redeemer liveth, And at last he will stand up upon the earth:
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Me, too! Me, too!
In the Service of the KING,
Brother Tim Keyes (Proverbs 3:5-6)
When I fully rely upon God, I find that He is fully reliable.
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Jim
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Lol, on it's way Broither Tim.
And David, I just understood what you were referring to, so I wanted to post for everyone to see that this exposition supports the fact that there are MAJOR doctrinal differences between the KJV and the MV's of today. Thank for putting that out, I didn't want to confuse anyone.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
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Davo
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RE: Doctrinal differences
[/i]Thank you Jim.
I have recieved the file. It is just what I wanted.
David
Job 19:25 But as for me I know that my Redeemer liveth, And at last he will stand up upon the earth:
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Jim
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RE: Doctrinal differences
You're welcome. Please let me know what your opinion is on it too. I want to make sure it is doctrinally correct.
Jim
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
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RE: Doctrinal differences
I have been given How to Enjoy Your Bible by John Blanchard, and asked to read it.
On page 68, he says, the Revised version, has "over 30,000 changes, over 5,000 on the basis of a better Greek text." Not taking into account "the better Greek text", I wonder on what basis the other 25,000 changes were made?
On page71, I read:
The vast amount of research done in this area, and in particular the great number of manuscripts discovered during the last one hundred years, has convinced the overwhelming majority of competent scholars involved that we can get remarkably close to the original documents. The renowned textual scholar Richard Bentley, one-time Master of Trinity College, Cambridge, put it like this: 'The real text of the several writers is competently exact in the worst manuscript now extant; nor is one article of faith or moral precept either perverted or lost in them; choose as awkwardly as you will, choose the worst by design, out of the whole lump of readings ... even put them into the hands of a knave or a fool, and yet with the most sinistrous and absurd choice, he shall not extinguish the light of any one chapter, nor so disguise Christianity but that every feature of it will still be the same.’
Hmm!
Jim, I have not read all of your documemnt yet, but I'll try to finish it and reply soon.
David
Job 19:25 But as for me I know that my Redeemer liveth, And at last he will stand up upon the earth:
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Jim
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RE: Doctrinal differences
I cannot believe that anyone with an iota of faith could believe that when documents are so diametrically opposed to each other, they could still be considered "every feature of it will still be the same".
This not only defies the understanding of inspiration and preservation, it defies all common sense. That is utterly amazing to me.
When they asked you to read it, what was their intention? Did they actually think the book was accurate?
Love in Christ,
Jim
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
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Bro Jim,
You should reply to Paul Freeman, and tell him that the article on Bible Doctrines Affected by the Modern Versions, is on point! I don't have an mv to check on the actual word removal, but I have no reason to doubt his research. (Someone could probably verify the material thru one of the online versions) Since we know that the minority texts are Alexandrian counterfeits, this article details the final result of that corruption. Thanks for the document!
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Thanks for the input. I myself felt it was pretty accurate, but I wanted to what others felt first.
My pleasure!
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
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Davo
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RE: Doctrinal differences
When they asked you to read it, what was their intention? Did they actually think the book was accurate?
1) They are thinking of changing to the ESV. 2) I think so.
Psalm 12: 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
Where would the Lord preserve his word? In the desert of Egypt, or in the Church?
David
Job 19:25 But as for me I know that my Redeemer liveth, And at last he will stand up upon the earth:
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Right on, Davo!
Get Dr James Sightler's book entitled, "A Testimony Founded Forever - the King James Bible Defended in Faith and History", from avpublications.com. He is the son of former Tabernacle Baptist Church, Pastor Harold Sightler, and teaches Bible at their institute in Greenville, SC. He is a board certified pediatrician, and his book details that it is the Church that God uses to preserve His word, not Alexandrian spooks! Good read!
A government that is large enough to supply everything you need is large enough to take everything you have - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Right on, Davo!
Get Dr James Sightler's book entitled, "A Testimony Founded Forever - the King James Bible Defended in Faith and History", from avpublications.com. He is the son of former Tabernacle Baptist Church, Pastor Harold Sightler, and teaches Bible at their institute in Greenville, SC. He is a board certified pediatrician, and his book details that it is the Church that God uses to preserve His word, not Alexandrian spooks! Good read!
Yes,James Sightler has some very important things that put it all together that the others have not done.
Another one that has done some particular research is Les Garrett in Which Bible can we Trust?
Well written, a good overview and a great appendix at the back comparing a few of those new versions and just what verses are corrupted and missing. I have used it as much as any other book I have.
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Talking about doctrinal differences, Dr.Ken Matto has a web site and he is in the process of documenting one error each week from the modern versions and their underlying Greek;with the doctrine attacked. He also sends them out via e-mail. He might be physically handicapped, but he is standing tall for the LORD and his pure words.
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PeterAV
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Now known as the KING James BIBLE.
It is the standard for all manners of faith and practice.PeterAV
Memorize easier by writing down
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RE: Doctrinal differences
Brother Peter, you have an interesting little statement at the bottom of your posts that I have always believe. You mention the fact that the Bible is the sole authority for both faith and practice. However I had not until just recently known where that statement is found in the Bible. The Holy Spirit showed it to me recently.
(2Pe 1:3) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
You may think I am a little slow or something but I was quite pleased to see that fact in God's Holy Word. Notice the Bible says that the Lord "hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness. Life is our practice, conversation or the way we conduct ourselves. Godliness means things of faith.
The rest of you may have known of this Scripture for quite some time but if anyone was not, there it is. Perhaps someone will come to the boards and read it who was not aware of it. We are clearly told in 2 Peter that God gave us these things through His Word.
The tough part for me is following it. Sometimes I fall flat on my face. But...the Lord picks me back up when I hold out my hand to him.
In Christ,
George
(Galatians 5:1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
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