Hey everyone, I'm not new here, but yesterday was my first time posting on the forums here. I look forward to having fellowship with you all.

God Bless

Welcome aboard Cody. I pray you will find your stay here honoring to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pun intentional, playing the devil's advocate, I have to ask, so please humor me:

What is your stance on Peter Ruckman?

Love in Christ,

Jim

Well first, I'm not a Ruckmanite, but if someone called me that I wouldn't mind a bit because they probably called me that because I believe the King James Bible is the perfect word of God. I have heard many of a sermon by Ruckman and read many of his books. He is right on the main subject of the Bible, but he might be wrong on some of the minor things he teaches, but one thing is for sure he gives you references on everything and says, "don't take my word for it, look it up!"

There were things people told me that Ruckman said and I thought he was an idiot, but when I read what he said about it and checked him with my Bible, rather than listening to an off context comment someone made about him..I noticed he was probably right.

A lot of people don't like Ruckman's preaching style. People call him an angry spirited man, but have they walked in his shoes? I'm sure this man receives hate mail from Catholics, Muslims and Bible rejectors every week. Ruckman is a down to earth kind of guy and he studies his Bible probably more than anyone else on this forum. Ruckman has got me to read and study my Bible more than anyone in this world. He may have a few fleas on him(just like the rest of us), but God is using him and that is for sure.

1 Corinthians 2:4
"And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:" KJV

2 Corinthians 3:12
"Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:" KJV

2 Corinthians 10:10
"For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible." KJV

2 Corinthians 11:6
"But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things." KJV

This post was last modified: Fri May 02, 2008 02:36 PM by CodyKJV.

Brother Cody, I once read a transcript of one of Ruckman's entire sermons. In it he consistently used the language of the world to condemn the world. I found that hypocritical at best. I do agree he is a great defender of our beloved Bible but I find his methods to be lacking.

In Christ,
George

Did he call them a jackass?

Job 11:11-12
11 "For he knoweth vain men: he seeth wickedness also; will he not then consider it?
12 For vain man would be wise, though man be born like a wild ass's colt." KJV

I have heard this sermon. It was a feeble attempt to use biblical language to describe someone without having to use the modern language such as "stubborn and proud"

Ruckman, with his attitude alone has done much to destroy the term "christian" in this century.

I won't approach his doctrine. To me, that is a moot point with Ruckman. I don't know the man very well, but our pastor went to school with him,and does, and feels the same way I do.

Ruckman is very lacking in his address toward many people. He is very negatively condescending towards people.

I can somewhat agree with this, but Ruckman's potrayal of christianity does not make one desire to have what he has. He comes across as a raging, hateful, bitter, spiteful, hater of life in general.

The last thing I would say about Ruckman is is the fact that he believes the KJV "corrects" the Greek. GT will be shocked when I agree with him on this, but GT is right, the KJV cannot "correct" it's source.


Love in Christ,

Jim

This post was last modified: Fri May 02, 2008 04:06 PM by Jim.

yes, that is one of many words he used in this sermon. You must understand there is a vast difference between a "jackass" and an ass's colt. The term of jackass is a derogatory term used as applied to a fool. The term ass's colt means the foal of a donkey.

In Christ,
George

I think it can be pretty accurate to say that the term "ass" did not refer to someones anatomy back then as it is almost exclusively now. It only referred to an animal. Knowing this now, christians have a responsibility to make sure they are unspotted from the world. Not letting the world system be able to differentiate ones verbal conversation from holiness to worldliness is a responsibility of ours. Dr. Ruckman fails in that responsibility. How often do you hear an American use the term "ass" to describe a donkey today? I haven't.

Love in Christ,

Jim

This post was last modified: Fri May 02, 2008 04:11 PM by Jim.

Well guys, I think we've stated what we like and dislike about Ruckman. I read and listen to his sermons and take what edifies me, which has been a lot. I agree that he should be more humble, but I've even heard him say that is one of his weaknesses. We all have different sins, none of us are alike. So lets keep Ruckman in our prayers.

God Bless

I agree. I just use Dr. Ruckman, very, very cautiously. I have had too many run-ins with his "devotees", none of which ended to the glory of God, hence my question to you at the beginning of this thread.

So, that being said, I needed to know what colors you were flying. That is my responsiblity to God and the site, before allowing you to continue to post here.

This post was last modified: Fri May 02, 2008 04:19 PM by Jim.

I won't cause any trouble here, brother. I'll respect you and I would like to receive that respect back. Thanks for allowing this Ruckmanite to post. lol jk

Welcome, Cody. You sound like you will get along just fine @ this forum. I am the devil's advocate around here (if you asked most of the others around here they will probably tell you that is true in more ways than 1 ). I look forward to future conversations, discussions, and even the occasional debate.

GASP...I almost swalled my tongue!!!

Actually, I figurred you weren't that far out on the issue (though maybe only a few steps away ). Is that why you prefer the title OKJV instead of KJVO?

CodyKJV Wrote:

I won't cause any trouble here, brother. I'll respect you and I would like to receive that respect back. Thanks for allowing this Ruckmanite to post. lol jk

First of all,, what is a "jk?" Secondly, respect is something that is earned and is not a guarantee or a right. It is a privilege. I do not think there is anyone here who will disrespect you unless you earn it. As I said earlier it is a pleasure to have you here with us. I appreciate you participation and your willingness to not cause any trouble. We have enough of the with the scholars who consider themselves superior because of their book learning.

In Christ,
George

jk = just kidding. Come on man, you have to learn your internet lingo.

Actually Brother as I said I disdain the little smiley face things and I also stay away from those little Internet "lingo" things. Part of it is that during the Viet Nam war I was a communicator (radioman) in the Navy. Our communications had to be as pure as possible. At the time there was a huge upwelling of the use of CB radio. The method of speech on those things was atrocious. We learned to never sacrifice accuracy for speed. We also learned that our messages were only as effective as the person with the lowest understanding was able to read them. In other words they had to be spelled out in plain English.

Another reason for me staying away from those things is that particularly among the young people in our country today the use of the English language is getting worse and worse. I have seen things people have written that are just about impossible to read because of the use of those made-up forms of what is called writing. Writing and oral communications skills among today's youth are terrible. Even schools have compromised on the use of the English language to accommodate the limited skills of the students.

I recall the first time I saw the use of "lol." I asked what a little old lady had to do with the subject. I often wonder if the use of the smiley faces and the other things is because the people who use them cannot express themselves clearly or perhaps cannot express their thoughts and emotions with their own vocabulary. My word, to me it is sort of like using cuss words. I find that people use cuss words because they do not have their own vocabulary.

Again this is just my personal opinion.

In Christ,
George