It sounds like Spock from "Star Trek".

Jim,

Well it is totally illogical to assume that all Catholics believe and adhere to all Catholic doctrine. College graduates are supposed to be able to think logically and analytically, think for themselves and decipher for themselves which Catholic doctrines are logical and scriptural and should be adhrered to, which Catholic doctrines are illogical and unscriptural and should be dispensed with, which parts of the Mass are logical and scriptural and should be participated in and which parts of the Mass are illogical and unscriptural and should not be participated in.

Why do you keep putting the "Cool" emoticon after all of your posts?

Jim,

I will switch emoticons every time I make a post.

If the undisputed owner of a group says that you are not a member of the group...Can you still actualy be a member of that group? Logicaly?

Robert, Please understand that we love you!

Jim,

What has the fact that you guys love me have to do with the fact that Catholics who are college graduates are supposed to think logically and analytically like I do and think for themselves like I do and decipher for themselves like I do what Catholic doctrines are logical and scriptural and should be adhered to, which Catholic doctrines are illogical and should be dispensed with, which parts of the Mass are logical and should be participated in and which parts of the Mass are illogical and should not be participated in?

If I a Catholic who is a college graduate am able to think logically and analytically, think for myself and decipher for myself which Catholic doctrines are logical and scriptural and should be adhered to, which Catholic doctrines are illogical and should be dispensed with, which parts of the Mass are logical and scriptural and should be participated in and which parts of the Mass are illogical and unscriptural and should not be participated in then I expect other Catholics who are also college graduates to be able to do the same thing that I did.

I've never been to college.

So I guess we are ALL Catholic...because we can decide which things they do are "okay" and which things they do are not okay, but the question is "To what extent are we Catholic?" Some (even college graduates...probably with more years than you) believe ALL of Catholicism because they understand that in oreder to really be a member of their organization you are mandated to believe what they say to believe. Ask the Pope (The indisputed leader of Catholicism).

Agur,

It really is illogical for Catholics who are college graduates to believe all Catholic doctrine. College graduates are supposed to be able to think logically and analytically, think for themselves and decipher for themselves which Catholic doctrines are logical and scriptural and should be adhered to, which Catholic doctrines are illogical and unscriptural and should be dispensed with, which parts of the Mass are logical and scriptural and should be participated in and which parts of the Mass are illogical and unscriptural and should not be participated in. If Catholics who are college graduates do not do that then they are being deceived by Satan.

So therefore a little (or a lot in the case of the Catholic doctrine) error poisons the whole deal.

Its kind of like eating around a dozen flies that are floating in your soup. You could do it, but why would you?

Ray

I already get your "point", Robert...I agree, anyone that can think would know that Catholic Doctrine, tradition, and behavior is wrong Scripturaly, and in about a half-of-a-dozen other ways. What I think is odd is that you call yourself a Catholic, if all that someone had to do is agree with SOME of what the Catholic religion says...than all Christians and some other people (muslims, buddhists, atheists, deists, hindus, etc.) would be Catholic. HOWEVER, the undisputed leader of Catholicism (the Pope), would definately not call you a Catholic at all if he knew that you believe against Catholicism.

Furthermore.......you seem rather impressed with the fact that you attended college

Someone once said, quite rightly, that Roman Catholic "Churches" were just Theatres without the name.

(Excuse me but have we wandered off the subject here.?)

I hope you know how fortunate you are, Robert since Vatican II. Many Catholics over the years lost their lives during the Inquisition because they didn't agree with everything their church stood for.

You seem to pick and choose which bits of the Roman religion you like and don't like.

Don't forget, I am still interested in hearing what you PP tells you about Trent's curses on you and us former Catholics.

jgb321,

My Priest does not know that I do not believe all Catholic doctrine because I have never told him that I do not believe all Catholic doctrine and I do not plan on telling him that I do not believe all Catholic doctrine because it really is none of his business that I do not believe all Catholic doctrine. And really it is totally illogical for the Priest to assume that all Catholics have to believe all Catholic doctrine. And really it is totally illogical for anybody to assume that all Catholics have to believe all Catholic doctrine. And I could care less about what the Council of Trent stated about if anybody does not believe all Catholic doctrine that they are anathama.

Why beat around the bush???

I think that I am not alone in my belief that you, Robert, are NOT a Catholic...seeing as you understand that they are illogical in their beliefs...The Pope is the leader of Catholicism, and his doctrine defines a Catholic for a Catholic--You do not adhere to his doctrine, you are none of his...Good for you; and when you figure that out I hope you grow in Christ. That would be like someone who is a Pentecostal saying he doesn't believe in the present day manifestations of the Spirit, or a Baptist saying he doesn't believe in full immersion, or a Seventh Day Adventist who saysd he believes that the Sabbath was done away with in the new covenant...You're not thinking realisticaly.