Well praise God that you have taken on a little bit of sense! I shall continue to pray for you.

In Christ,
George

Yet you are still counted among those as you fellowship with them who do believe those things. Not only believe them, but actively purport it.

And may I ask you another question, "Is faith logical?"

Jim

Jim,

Yes, faith is logical. The Priest or nobody else at the local Catholic Church that I attend and belong to is cognizant of the fact that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines because it is none of their business that I do not believe all Catholic doctrines. And it is pretty illogical for them or anybody else to assume that all Catholics are supposed to believe all Catholic doctrines.

It doesn't matter what church you are in if you have never repented of your sin. When you receive the Gospel and repent of your sin, you will want to join the most scriptural church you can find. That will not be the RCC, as you say you do not believe most of the teaching.

If you had really repented and been washed in the blood of Jesus, you would leave straight away, and attach yourself to a bible believing church.

Then please enlighten us with a dissertation of your assertion that faith is logical.

Faith is completely illogical. Tha is why it is called faith.We have to have a complete reliance on something we cannot see and something we cannot even understand. Faithis the most illogical thing in a person's world.

Yours in Christ,
George

George,

What it states in Hebrews 11:1 is totally logical and thus faith is totally logical.

Davo,

If church membership has no bearing on salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven then why should it matter if someone who has received Christ as their Savior remains in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or a Mainline Protestant Church and does not join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church?

When everybody stands before Christ after they pass away Christ will not ask why they did not belong to a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church in addition to having received Him as their Savior because church membership will not come into the equation. The only thing that Christ will require of everybody when they pass away in order to gain entrance into Heaven is that they had received Him as their Savior. Christ will not require anything else for entrance into Heaven. Not church membership or Baptism or the Sacraments.

My brother and my brothers minister and everybody at that Non Denominational Church that my brother is a member of does not state that it is necessary for salvation that everybody who receives Christ as their Savior has to leave the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church or the Mainline Protestant Churches and join a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church.

The reason that I am not joining a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church is that I do not like the non liturgical worship services that Fundamentalist and Evangelical Protestant Churches have. Another thing that I do not like about Fundamentalist and Evangelical Protestant Churches is that everybody is expected to fellowship and engage in interpersonal commnication face to face with other individuals and I am not comfortable fellowshipping and engaging in interpersonal communication face to face with other individuals. When I go to church I want to sit in the back of the church, not communicate with anybody and worship Christ alone. I can do that in the Catholic Church when I only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass which means that I am worshipping Christ in truth because the scriptural parts to the Mass are true.

Robert, you sound like a broken record. Give it a break.

In Christ,
George

Robert

You sound like the man in Scotland who thought he ought to go church, but did not want to get involved, so he crept in late and went into the back pew and crouched down to hide, with his fingers in his ears so he could not hear. One day after many weeks of this a bee kept buzzing around his head. He had to take his fingers out of his ears to shoo it away, and as he did, he heard the words, "He who has ears let him hear." he listened and was saved.


I pray that one day your ears will be opend to hear the words of the Lord,

God bless

Amen Dave! Well said!!!

In Christ,
George

http://www.fbbc.com/messages/catholic_herisies.htm

The above link should interest those who want to see just what a "man made religion" Catholicism really is.

As a former Catholic, born, raised, brainwashed to recite prayers, kneel to statues and believe all the Pope's rules and changing regulations....I was saved 14 yrs. ago.

The Bible clearly states: THERE IS NO MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN BUT THE CHRIST JESUS.
No priest, no one.

Jesus clearly stated: John 3...you must be born again.
Practicing Catholics believe in a "works" salvation. You cannot work to obtain salvation. Catholics are misled by a prideful "corporation"...the wealthiest. It is filled with lies, and misconceptions and unknowingly the sheep that follow their lies are on the wide road to hell.

The devil believes in Jesus so is he going to heaven?
You must believe ON Jesus and come to Him in humility and repentance and thus be born again. I know of no Catholics who have done this and still belong to the Catholic church. When you DO come to Jesus and are born again...........your eyes are open...........and a born again person WILL leave this religion because they will see CLEARLY it is not of God.

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Someday when you are truly saved...you will WANT to fellowship with your bothers and sisters in Christ...you will HAVE a heart and a desire to be with other like minded in Christ. You will have a DESIRE to reach out and tell others of the wonders of His saving grace.

When we are filled with the Holy Spirit we are given these things.

THIS is the sign of a true born again child of God.

Think about it....................

mwords,

Are you claiming to be Christ to know what my relationship is to Christ? I ought to know that I prayed to Christ during an Altar Call at my brothers Non Denominational Church and received Him as my Personal Savior and thus I am saved regardless if I have not left the Catholic Church and joined a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church. And at that moment I started being led by the Holy Spirit to dispense with the illogical and unscriptural Catholic doctrines, adhere only to the logical and scriptural Catholic doctrines, dispense and not participate in the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass and adhere only to the logical and scriptural parts to the Mass. If I was not really saved and being led by the Holy Spirit would I have dispensed with the illogical and unscriptural Catholic doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass? Nobody who is not really saved and is not being led by the Holy Spirit would dispense with the illogical and unscriptural Catholic doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass because they do not have the Holy Spirit to lead them to dispense with the illogical and unscriptural Catholic doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass. That is logic.

Since when is fellowshipping and engaging in interpersonal communcation with other individuals a requirement for salvation? And I do inform other individuals that they have to receive Christ as their Savior in order to be saved and gain entrance into Heaven after passing away not by verbal communication but by using discussion forums. You do not understand shyness at all obviously if you expect everybody to fellowship and engage in interpersonal communication with other individuals. When someone receives Christ as their Savior their personality does not change. If someone is shy before they received Christ as their Savior then they will continue to be shy after they received Christ as their Savior. If someone has a stupid and rotten personality before they received Christ as their Savior then they will continue to have a stupid and rotten personality after they received Christ as their Savior. An example of that is my late Uncle and Aunt and their family from North Carolina. My late Uncle and Aunt and their family received Christ as their Savior and became Baptists and their personalities did not change one iota after they had received Christ as their Savior and became Baptists. They had stupid personalities before they received Christ as their Savior and became Baptists and they continued to have stupid personalities after they had received Christ as their Savior and became Baptists.

Since when is belonging to a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church a requirement for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven after passing away? Christ will not require of everybody when they pass away that they had belonged to a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Protestant Church in addition to having received Him as their Savior in order to gain entrance into Heaven. The only thing that Christ will require of everybody to gain entrance into Heaven is that they had received Him as their Savior. That is what all the Fundamentalist ministers that I have heard speak about what is required for salvation have stated.

Robert,

You are still not listening.

Open my eyes, that I may see
Glimpses of truth Thou hast for me;
Place in my hands the wonderful key
That shall unclasp and set me free.

Refrain

Silently now I wait for Thee,
Ready my God, Thy will to see,
Open my eyes, illumine me,
Spirit divine!

Open my ears, that I may hear
Voices of truth Thou sendest clear;
And while the wave notes fall on my ear,
Everything false will disappear.

Refrain

Open my mouth, and let me bear,
Gladly the warm truth everywhere;
Open my heart and let me prepare
Love with Thy children thus to share.

Refrain

Clara H. Scott,
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/p/openeyes.htm